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[–] gedaliyah@lemmy.world 77 points 1 day ago (4 children)

In a sense, it is semantics. It's mathematically wrong but it's correct in terms of messaging. If you say that prices increased by 100%, then decreased by 50%, to a lot of people it sounds like they are still higher than the original.

It's sort of like how the 1/3 pound burger failed in America because people thought it was smaller than the equally priced 1/4 pound burger.

People are dumb is the point.

And if there is one competency Trump has, it's communicating to dumb people.

[–] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 21 hours ago

but like he could just have said it's X times cheaper

[–] excral@feddit.org 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It might be correct in a technical sense but it's first and foremost misleading. If something costs $150 and the seller offers for the price to come down 50%, you'd rightfully expect the price to be $75, not $100. The seller could argue that it's some 50% markup being removed but would you believe that to be a genuine explanation, or that the seller is trying to mislead or scam you?

[–] gedaliyah@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm pretty sure we're saying the same thing

[–] excral@feddit.org 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Mostly yes, but I take issue with the statement that it's "correct in terms of messaging". In short, I'd say that it's technically correct but incorrect in terms of messaging as pretty much everyone would understand the wrong message.

But being misleading is very much in character for Trump.

[–] gedaliyah@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago

It's also not correct even in a technical sense. For what that's worth. It's a made up number to sound really big and impressive, even if it is not true in any sense.

Republicans have consciously targeted a fifth grade educational level for decades now. Trump's innovation was targeting a third grade level.

[–] stebo02@sopuli.xyz 5 points 1 day ago (3 children)

It's sort of like how the 1/3 pound burger failed in America because people thought it was smaller than the equally priced 1/4 pound burger.

I've never heard of this. What? The average American doesn't know how fractions work? This country never ceases to amaze me.

[–] Betty_Boopie@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

A&W tried it in the 80's and apparently more than half the people in the focus group thought the burger was smaller because 3 is less than 4. They renamed it the 3/9th burger so dumbass Americans wouldn't feel like they were being ripped off. Americans have been leading the world in dumbassery for the decades at this point.

[–] stebo02@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 day ago

if anything, 3/9 would be more confusing to me, cuz now I have to "calculate" how much that actually is, as opposed to knowing the amount by heart

[–] CalipherJones@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

Had a guy swear up and down that 2/3 is larger than 3/4. This was brought up because he was telling me he was teaching his son math. Guy was at least 45+.

[–] SnarkoPolo@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago

Wait until they abolish public education, and kids are either homeschooled or go to work. Theyll make Idiocracy look like Mensa.

[–] ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.org 58 points 1 day ago (1 children)

All this means is that Trump had eggs for breakfast that day.

[–] D_C@lemm.ee 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

It was probably about 30 egg mcmuffins.
We all know how much Tubby Tiny Hands loves his McD's.

[–] ObviouslyNotBanana@lemmy.world 108 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Damn, that might be one of the dumbest things I've read today

[–] cRazi_man@europe.pub 43 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Most of today still remains. Give it time.

[–] SomeoneSomewhere@lemmy.nz 15 points 2 days ago

It's nearly midnight here. Still dumb.

[–] friend_of_satan@lemmy.world 48 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

I just had breakfast at Tony T's Coney Island and they paid me $36 to eat a three egg omelette. Of course I had to pay for coffee.

[–] Albbi@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The coffee was also cursed.

[–] ddash@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 day ago

Blecch! Ew! Sheesh! I'll take a crab juice.

[–] qarbone@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

So if I eat 3 eggs that should subsidize one (1) avocado toast(s). Hold on, I think I finally got agrip of these bootstraps!

[–] blarghly@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

The coffee was $50

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 58 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Not for long. Y’see, when you roll back regulations and oversight for the USDA, you end up with large and costly recalls. https://www.nbcnews.com/health/recall/cdc-fda-eggs-salmonella-recall-rcna211610

[–] CMahaff@lemmy.world 37 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Obviously you should just get rid of the CDC and FDA then. No recalls, no problem!

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago

Ah, yes. The 2020 classic covid server shift. No need to distort what you don’t report!

[–] SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 1 day ago

I would say 'don't give them ideas', but I'm pretty sure that's already in the works.

[–] collapse_already@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 day ago

More evidence for why he threatened to sue if someone leaks his SAT scores.

[–] Zachariah@lemmy.world 32 points 1 day ago
[–] spooky2092@lemmy.blahaj.zone 21 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Wow, so you're telling me the idiots still using the Nazi bird site aren't very smart?

[–] kn0wmad1c@programming.dev 19 points 1 day ago

These people learned math from fox news.

[–] Mothra@mander.xyz 29 points 2 days ago (5 children)

Stupidity highlighted in the post aside - that's not my country, is it true that eggs now cost $2 when they used to be $8?

[–] Bakkoda@sh.itjust.works 54 points 2 days ago

It's a lie. It's always a lie.

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 37 points 2 days ago (1 children)

In NY, a dozen has come down to $6.99 from $12.99 in March. They were ~$5.99 per dozen under Biden when MAGA could not shut up about them.

[–] P00ptart@lemmy.world 47 points 2 days ago (6 children)

$3.99 here. I can almost guarantee what happened to drop the price is that they stopped testing for bird flu. Milk also halved in price at the same time. I haven't seen milk this cheap in 20+ years.

[–] jatone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

😂 milk/eggs are the same price here in my state. You guys were/are just getting fucked by standard capitalist behaviors. Nothing has fundamentally changed this year for those price drops.

I assure you testing for bird flu in no way results in a 20% price drop, let alone whats being claimed by this admin. Testing is dirt cheap likely less than a fraction of a cent per egg.

The reasons prices sky rocketted is because the flu killed off the chickens not because of testing.

[–] blarghly@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Tests don't cost money. Positive tests cost money, because then you have to kill a bunch of chickens to stop the spread of the disease. Stymieing the spread of bird flu requires both higher egg prices and costly culling for farmers. If the admin stops testing, egg prices come down because farmers can't be told to cull chickens which they don't know are sick. So egg prices come down. But also bird flu spreads out of control and we might create a new pandemic.

[–] Clent@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 day ago

Bird flu is very deadly for chickens. Testing or not testing doesn't affect mortality rate. It's 75%-100% either way.

Not testing would mean they are not culling before it spreads therefore more dead chickens and fewer eggs.

This is not the same as testing cows where there is much lower mortality rate. In cows it results in lower milk production.

[–] P00ptart@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That's not normal market behavior, something changed.

[–] jatone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (6 children)

Dude, ive literally been in meetings where were it was decided to increase prices by 80% based on the zipcode you were from.

It absolutely is normal market behavior. These fuckers pull this kind of shit all the time. Hell during trumps last admin they killed some worker pay thing and immediately businesses gave a bonus to workers that was worth a fraction of what the bill would have given workers as a ploy.

Hell in this thread alone you can see the massive variability of prices based on regions and no, its not because of mysterious market forces. You dont go from 8 to 2 dollars in a couple months due to market forces for a product that has a lead time of 3-4 months (the time it takes for a chicken to mature and produce eggs)

What has happened here is essentially: flu killed off a truck load of chickens, prices sky rocketted due to supply/demand and farmers redirecting to chicken production to restore the supply. Then as the chickens matured prices stabalized back down. And during this period middle men jacked up the prices because they had cover of a supply issue to blame beyond what the reality dictated.

But this took awhile to occur and started well before this admin. Has nothing to do with testing as you asserted with 100% confidence, in fact trsting is how we managed to limited the damage. Nor does it justify 12.99/dozen prices in one region and 4 in another were both regions magically reverted by 50+% to the baseline.

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[–] Doom@ttrpg.network 9 points 1 day ago

They didn't. At least not for me. I work in the kitchen industry, cookie dough, liquid eggs, certain breads are expensive/hard to source atm. Egg prices went down a little, at one point we were paying $80 for a case that used to be $30ish. Last I ordered it was $68.

[–] Slab_Bulkhead@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago (2 children)

atm $3.80/dozen where i'm at.

[–] Mothra@mander.xyz 10 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Ok and just confirming, these same eggs- brand, size, quality - used to cost like a lot more a couple months ago? Where I live prices went up... Stayed there

[–] match@pawb.social 10 points 2 days ago

was about double two months ago. was about half as much a year ago

[–] Slab_Bulkhead@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

yup march they were over 8.

[–] Tolookah@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)
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[–] iks@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Stable like what? Oganesson? 5ms or what?

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