How come Newsom can’t order the California guard to protect the protestors from ICE?
Isn’t he their commander?
this post was submitted on 12 Jun 2025
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The Guard was federalized which takes them out of Newsom's control and puts them in Dipshit's control.
Which is scary as fuck to think a president will do that for the sole purpose of antagonizing the citizens of the state.
The dumbass takes pleasure in seeing people fighting and dying for what he perceives as his sake.
Also the entire project 2025 thing where this isn’t just a personal vendetta but a testing ground for how much fascism people will tolerate and when he can declare martial law if people clash with armed forces
Yeah, exactly this was actually mentioned on page 555 of the project.
I feel bad for the Marines that went there. Imagine being responsible for dishonoring the entire USMC. I don’t think I’ll ever respect them again.
(No, not even if one beats me up or murders me, just to get out in front of any such sentiment.)
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Wait, Trump called in California's national guard or Trump federalized California's state guard? Because I was under the impression he couldn't do the latter
The National Guard IS the state guard. That's it's official title. Perhaps you're confusing them for the Reserves, which is a federal militia that's only activated as needed.
But the president can activate the National Guard as a federal entity under his control.
When they say Trump is calling in the National Guard, he's not deploying troops to the state; they're already there. He's just activating them and "deploying" them wherever he needs them in the state.
The big problem here is that activating means putting them on active duty (same status as federal military troops) and giving them active duty pay and benefits. But Trump and Pete Hegseth are not currently paying them (claiming the pay will come later) and trying to limit their deployed status so they don't need to pay them full deployment benefits.
It's like a business ensuring you only work 39 hours a week so they don't have to give you medical benefits or full-time employment status. If they don't fix it soon, the National Guard may just join the protestors.
Which may be why Trump is sending in the US Marines too; to keep the National Guard in line. Or he's throwing a bunch of conflicting groups together to start a civil war so he can jump-start his dictatorship. This is how it always starts; declare martial law, deploy troops to every major city to seize control, then start making changes to laws and citizen's rights across the books, with no one able to stop him through courts or uprisings.
Source: I'm a retired US Air Force veteran. Spent 20 years in active duty service, the last few years under Trump's first term. It was an absolute nightmare and we hoped he was gone for good. But here we are again, and he doesn't have a majority Democrat govt to keep him on a leash this time, so we're in for a rough ride.
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The President's unlawful order infringes on Governor Newsom's role as Commander-in-Chief of the California National Guard and violates the state's sovereign right to control and have available its National Guard in the absence of a lawful invocation of federal power.
https://www.gov.ca.gov/2025/06/12/high-ranking-u-s-military-officials-agree-trumps-takeover-of-los-angeles-is-illegal/
The California National Guard (Cal Guard) is part of the National Guard of the United States, a dual federal–state military reserve force in the state of California.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_National_Guard
The California State Guard (CSG) is a reserve military force that supports the California National Guard (CNG) and the California Military Department (CMD) by enhancing their readiness for both state and federal responsibilities.
https://calguard.ca.gov/csg/
(Interesting, I didn't see any markup tools till I edited it (still seems to be italicizing quotes instead of showing as quotes). New to piefed (part of the new to lemm.ee diaspora), not usually directly on piefed via browser but using Pferd and Interstellar on phone.)
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The whole reason for this suit is that trump is taking control of our own national guard through some obscure law so Newsom no longer can control it.
Only a few states have state guards, which are like national guard groups that have no connection to the federal government. Most of these are on the east coast in democratic areas because republicans look at them and go: "Why do we have a state guard and a national guard? They do they same thing. If we cut the state guard, we can pass a tax cut!"
However, state guards are perfectly legal. In fact, that is what the 2nd amendment means when it says 'well regulated militia'. Sadly, I don't think California has one.
I wasn't aware of state guard, but after looking out up looks like California does have it, although it is about 900 troops so I guess that's why it's is almost as if it wasn't there.
He doesn't want to protect protestors. You're forgetting that he and the mayor are in full control of the police officers that are currently beating protestors to pulp. They are totally on board with what is happening, they just want to be the one in control.
The media is saying he's a top contender to be DNC candidate for prez. I'm not seeing it.
They'll make him the candidate whether you see it or not. The primary process is not democratic.
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What LAPD is doing needs to be investigated and they need being punished for it, but as of now Newsom doesn't have control over national guard, trump used an obscure law with very weak justification to get control of it.
This is what this lawsuit is about. To get the control back.
Newsom is fash. He couldn't give less of a shit about protestors. Fash support fash.
The lawsuit is that trump took away Newsome's control of the national guard. This is why he can't "just order" them.
I’ve been wondering the same thing. Order them to leave (at least) and make the National Guard choose who to follow.
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If only the founding fathers had given us the tools to deal with government overreach. Sadly the founders were just weak men that would threaten to sue over anything the British Empire did and took no action. They taught us nothing. If we could think for a SECOND Im sure we could thing up an AMMENDMENT to the Constitution that would enable a state to repel federal forces from the state. Considering those federal forces are actually state forces (National Guard), and have already been declared illegal by the court ... perhaps a well regulated militia of armed volunteers could be called in to help. Sadly, our Constitution just doesn't allow this.
"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."
Liberals have been disarming themselves in California for years, not sure what you're thinking
And republikkkans have been spiting bullshit like “Don’t tread on me and “we the people” but now getting horny for fascism.
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Eh, if his losses in court weren't relevant, he wouldn't bother screeching about them. Not that hard at least. He does seem to like screeching for its own sake.
He is the biggest narcissist on the planet, he would probably whine if his scrambled eggs were the wrong consistency.
“I do whine because I want to win and I’m not happy about not winning and I am a whiner and I keep whining and whining until I win", Trump told CNN’s Chris Cuomo on Tuesday.
Sorry. I live in a crazy world. Did he actually say this? He doesn't seem self aware enough to think like this.
This is going to end up in blood shed. This shit is dark.
Wait untill you learn that Israel just struck Iran's nuclear sites... including the capital, Tehran.
https://edition.cnn.com/world/live-news/israel-iran-strikes-news-06-12-25-hnk-intl
https://www.axios.com/2025/06/13/israel-strike-iran-trump-nuclear-talks
https://www.nytimes.com/live/2025/06/12/world/israel-iran-us-nuclear
Good grief... World war 3 could have just started.
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There's like 350 million people in this country. Thousands of people kill themselves everyday. Couldn't a single one of them take someone like Trump with then? No Luigi copycats, really weird.
considering that less than 2000 people kill themselves every day globally, i doubt that america has "thousands of people killing themselves everyday"
but i agree with you, might aswell like wtf
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When is trump ever alone in public at night where someone can just walk up to him and put a few rounds in the orange fuck?
I didn't say it'd be easy. Or that the perpetrator would live. He's having that big ass parade tomorrow. It'd take planning though.
Lawsuits are to convictions like chocolate mousse is to catalytic converters.
A fun way to make a bigger mess?
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