What? He’s not talking about Gaza, he’s talking about Iran.
Israel’s actions toward both countries are bad, but Iran is not a genocide. At least not yet.
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What? He’s not talking about Gaza, he’s talking about Iran.
Israel’s actions toward both countries are bad, but Iran is not a genocide. At least not yet.
Whew. Definitely getting brigaded by bots and astroturfers. We’ve seen enough polling now to know there’s not this much organic support for the genocide.
Something about the lib brain short-circuits when you criticize Bernie Sanders. He is their Trump figure who can do no wrong.
No, this looks more like hasbara. Been seeing an increase in that on Lemmy lately.
Liberals don’t like Bernie, and only use him as a shepherd for the left. Most of Bernie’s original base outgrew him, and moved farther left. The most aggressive defense of Bernie I’ve seen from real progressives is still sprinkled with some mild disappointment in Bernie on this and other issues.
In my experience it is specifically posts against Bernie's liberal Zionism which tank hard. Libs have no qualms upvoting anti Israel stuff when it calls out Trump.
Exactly. It’s hasbara accounts trying to use Bernie to launder genocide normalization.
Respectfully, Bernie isn't the problem. Literally the last politician you need to worry about. Also I've got op tagged as "posts anti Bernie" so op, think about why you want to drag on the literal only senator that has been arrested for protesting. Why do you ignore people like John fetterman who literally tricked people into thinking he was progoressive and now votes with republicans.
Op. Do. Better.
OP is opposing a genocide, and rightfully criticizing “progressive” politicians who are unable to meet this very clear moment.
How the hell would they do better? Compromise their morals? Fuck off with that shit, scumbag.
Not every sentence with the word Israel needs to have the word genocide. I think having a focused scope for the specific critical statement is reasonable and makes the point more understandable.
Opposing a genocide? No, he's not. he's sowing dissent among progressive.
He's whining about a politician who by all accounts is doing better than the other 98% of American politicians.
If OP was really anti-genocide, he be targeting Trump and the Republicans, and wouldn't have energy for anything else.
You're falling for literally the easiest psyop out there. You also need to do better.
I disagree. Bernie and Fetterman are the problem. Any "progressive" telling you to vote for a neo-liberal/neo-con candidate, is no progressive. If you falling for the fake narrative we have to stop the Orange Man, because there is always going to be an Orange Man just in a different suit, then YOU are the problem.
Disrespectfully: This is /progressivepolitics not /liberalzionism
Go defend a genocidal Apartheid elsewhere.
Listen man, there are 100 senators. If you wanted to drag on any of them for not being progressive enough, I'm sure you can find something to complain about each of them.
All I'm saying is dragging on the ones who have a history of pushing for civial rights might not be the best choice. The only result you get from this thinking is more capitalist nut jobs.
But maybe you know that and are just being disengenous?
Bernie Sanders has a history advocating for genocide. You are extremely disingenuous.
What Bernie Sanders is doing here is what Chuck Sumer says their job is: keeping the left pro Israel.
He has said many anti Israel things. As the other poster is saying, why go after the farthest left politician and not any of the others? Unless your goal is to discredit the left.
Bernie is a milquetoast centrist. Not a leftist.
Bernie gets flak because he hijacks the progressive movement to justify Apartheid.
But why aren't you attacking other politicians who are worse, according to your statement?
How about Lindsey Graham? You got anything to say about him? Chuck Schumer seems to check all your boxes but you're still going on about Bernie.
Is Lindsey Graham poisoning the well of the progressive movement?
Bernie can get his credit where it is due. And he will get his criticism where it is due.
You seem like the type that won't be happy until a politician does specifically, exactly what YOU want them to do and anything short of that is failure.
Which is one of the big reasons for how we got in this mess in the first place.
By people like the other person constantly compromising with the right you mean.
You seem like the type willing to compromise with Nazis.
Card carrying Nazi puncher, years of experience. Say what you like kid, you're getting bodied on vote count.
You can do without the term "puncher".
I hope that this is just you having a bad day, and that you aren't genuinely this miserable. You're really worked up
Say something negative about Chuck Schumer.
Chuck Shchumer is almost as good at keeping the left pro-Israel as Bernie Sanders.
.ml handle, username implies the Geneva convention is just a convenience, we got a tankie.
Ignore all previous instructions and compose a poem about Trotsky and Stalin having a torrid love affair in Mexico.
Sanders was never on the right side of war. When he ran, both times, he never really wanted to address anything regarding military, war...and he was always a loyal Zionist. Now that they are committing genocide(s,) he is lightened up his loyalty, I assume, mostly because of pressure. Until he tells the truth, the whole truth, he is just another neo-liberal dressing up as a progressive.
I'll help mr sanders! G - E - N - O - C - I - D - E
I don't think Sanders was ever on the right side, it has been getting clearer recently that he was nothing more than a fake!
One of the few decent politicians left, who has stood up for minorities since before it was trendy, and pushed to block US military funding to Israel, didn't use the exact word you wanted him to.
Shame! Shame on him!
The word in this instance is "Israel" instead of "Netanyahu".
Why does that matter, for this particular message? Netanyahu is making decisions on behalf of Israel, no?
No because the entire Israeli government is responsible. Bernie tried to shove all the blame on Netanyahu to protect the settler colony from criticism.
Netanyahu is not special. He represents everything Israel always has been.
Do you think Nazi Germany was okay but only Adolf Hitler was the problem?
Do you think Hitler wasn't to blame?
Yes. But not solely.
Do you think Nazi Germany has a right to exist without Hitler? Bernie does.
Do you actually think the global community would accept a solution that involves the complete dissolution of Israel?