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June is pride month! The T often gets forgotten or excluded in the LGBT community. How included do you feel?

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[–] MossyFeathers@pawb.social 4 points 3 days ago

I don't even bother with the LGBT community anymore. The furry community is a hell of a lot more accepting and isn't effectively controlled by corporate interests. Sure, there are still asshole furries who will try to invalidate you somehow, but out of the hundreds, if not thousands, I've met at this point, I've only run into 2~3 of them. Usually others will come to your rescue too if they notice you have someone trying to mansplain how you'll eventually detransition and become a gay man to you. Hell, most lesbian furries actually mean what they say, in my experience.

Meanwhile my brief experience stepping into the LGBT community made me nope the fuck out. Nothing like being told I'm not a real women by lesbians and gay men alike. The furry community is far better and gayer.

[–] sixtoe@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 5 days ago

Not at all. In almost every space I'm the wrong kind of queer and trans. Disabled, homeless, not passing in any way, and old. Fuck this state and fuck these privileged, exclusionary ablest, and classist assimilationists. Community? Doesn't fucking exist.

[–] MystValkyrie@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

50/50. I live in a trans sanctuary city with a large LGBT presence. Pride events and businesses are welcoming, and people are generally nice. The cis friends I have left are really accepting. One of my best friends, who is a cis lesbian, stopped interacting with me after I came out. There's a local TERF activist who lives down the street from me who has a radio show that's fairly popular in our state. She does everything she can to make us feel unwelcome where we live. One victory: She used to vandalize stickers on road signs and buildings, put razor blades undernearth, and then the trans folks and allies put trans stickers over them -- this went on for years. Then I had the idea to put stickers of adorable kittens over her stickers instead, and that put a stop to the sticker war, seemingly for good. It's been almost two years now since we've seen any stickers.

I'm sorry your friend rejected you like that, wtf would THAT be something to end a friendship over? It's bigoted and awful. The terf activist sounds awful, how horrible it must feel to be so filled with hate. Nice plan with the stickers!

I tend to feel included, it’s super UwU

[–] Sombyr@lemmy.zip 1 points 5 days ago (2 children)

I in general tend to feel pretty included, but it's shocking how many cis LGBT people think they can reclaim trans slurs and try to explain to me why it's actually okay that the called me a trap or a tranny because they're reclaiming it. Like, even if you heard a trans person use a slur to describe themself, please, do not call me that. (I wanna be clear, not talking about this community, happens mostly IRL.)
In general it's pretty common to feel like people are trying to be inclusive, which is nice, but my god cis people just can't help talking over trans people about trans issues.

Ugh I hate that. I'd never refer to a gay man with a slur, it's not ok to do that. It's really not ok to claim a word for you

[–] ZDL@lazysoci.al 1 points 5 days ago

My policy with any minority is to not use slurs of any kind, "reclaimed" or otherwise. Precisely because the ethics and social dance around reclaimed slurs is very complicated and very easy to fuck up.

And there's no need for them. Anything that a slur, "reclaimed" or otherwise, says can be said without the "reclaimed" slur.

I'm not super out or involved in the community beyond here really.

IRL I have both het, bi, and gay friends and they are all very supportive and sweet! So I'm rather happy with that. The progress flag hasn't caught on much here, but I don't know that that means much. Some find it kinda messy visually and prefer just the rainbow.

I've noticed online that there are quite a few "allies" who are only allies to a point; other queer people who don't take us seriously when we talk about the issues we care about and face on the regular and excuse their apathy or transphobia by explaining that they are gay and an ally. I don't know if they are just a vocal minority or a more significant portion of the LGBT than I hope they are. Mostly it seems the LGBT movement is open to including us, at least in theory, so until I am proven otherwise I'm gonna hope that this is actually true, and that we won't be thrown under the bus in the name of respectability politics as we have been in the past. Quite a few stonewall inspired organizations ironically didn't support trans people or those doing drag.

Mostly I am hopeful, even if there is increasing violence and discrimination against us. People are more vocally supporting us now than ever it feels like.