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Tulsi Gabbard left no doubt when she testified to Congress about Iran’s nuclear program earlier this year.

The country was not building a nuclear weapon, the national intelligence director told lawmakers, and its supreme leader had not reauthorized the dormant program even though it had enriched uranium to higher levels.

But Donald Trump dismissed the assessment of U.S. spy agencies during an overnight flight back to Washington as he cut short his trip to the Group of Seven summit to focus on the escalating conflict between Israel and Iran.

“I don’t care what she said,” Trump told reporters. In his view, Iran was “very close” to having a nuclear bomb.

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[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago

The moron just wants the war to hide his shenaningans at home. Sole reason. Everyone should know by now that he automatically denies any and every thing that runs contrary to his own personal narrative.

[–] lemmydividebyzero@reddthat.com 2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

wasn't YET building?

I mean... Why do you even get the uranium enriched to such high levels if you don't plan to make use of it?

So that a reason can be given to not enrich further.

[–] Robotsandstuff@lemmy.world 6 points 3 hours ago

We have done this dance before last time it cost me my 20s my sanity and most importantly a huge amount for friends I loved like brothers who died before and are still killing then selfs..

[–] wanderwisley@lemm.ee 5 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

So we are gonna do the Iraq WMD lie again huh?

[–] ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one 4 points 3 hours ago

This season's twist is that the Intelligence community is claiming that there is no weapons. Unless the Intelligence community is doing reverse psychological on us.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 4 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I still have people telling me it wasn't Bush's fault, the intelligence was bad

[–] Laser@feddit.org 4 points 2 hours ago

Well, they're half right, but not in the sense they mean...

[–] Englishgrinn@lemmy.ca 30 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

The truth doesn't really matter. Israel will get their war, and the US will lumber into it behind them.

What's crazy to me is apparently the US has become so polarized, so used to division that pointing out Israel is acting like bloodthirsty psychos is somehow supporting Iran, or Hamas before that. It's like their whole culture has evaporated any nuance at all. Only diametrically opposed good and evil battling forever. Professional wrestling stories with Heels and Faces divided by clear black lines.

[–] stringere@sh.itjust.works 3 points 4 hours ago

God vs Satan doesn't leave room for nuance.

[–] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 7 points 6 hours ago

It is the only thing conservatives/fascists have left.

[–] rayyy@lemmy.world 25 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Quick, dust off the "weapons of mass destruction" propaganda.

[–] xzot746@sh.itjust.works 9 points 6 hours ago

Came here to say the exact same thing.

It doesn't matter if it is true or not (not just this topic) but if you repeat the lie enough and gaslight the public it becomes true, and if it doesn't so what, what are you going to do about it.

NOTHING that is what they are counting on.

Keep up the protests, the No Kings protest was huge even if MSM is downplaying it.

[–] VeryInterestingTable@jlai.lu 43 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

First, weaken the commercial aviation in your country. Second, start calling everything terrorism. Third, start yet another war in the middle east.

Your guy is desperately looking for another 911.

[–] root_beer@midwest.social 5 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

I’m expecting a false-flag attack here soon to give him an excuse to officially pull the US into it

[–] WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago

Or maybe a real attack from the guillotine squad. It'd amount to the same thing.

[–] zarathustra0@lemmy.world 6 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

Did Netanyahu get his hands on the pee tapes?

[–] stringere@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

I'm sure mossad has kompromat on everone in the administration.

They have all of Epstein's recordings.

[–] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 5 points 6 hours ago

They can probably use Epstein's tapes.

[–] OutlierBlue@lemmy.ca 28 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

That's fine. Iraq didn't have WMDs either. They just need a lie to sell it to the public.

[–] oji@lemmy.world 16 points 8 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Codemancer@lemm.ee 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

What’s the context for this photo?

[–] halferect@lemmy.world 6 points 3 hours ago

Colin Powell lies to congress about "facts" and "evidence" of WMDs in Iraq that led to a 20 year war

[–] xyzzy@lemm.ee 27 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (4 children)

In [Trump's] view, Iran was “very close” to having a nuclear bomb.

Those are clearly Netanyahu's words in his mouth. Netanyahu has been loudly and confidently saying that at regular intervals since 2012. Iran is always weeks away.

[–] teamevil@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago

You mean 2002?

[–] rumimevlevi 4 points 5 hours ago

Since the 90's

[–] root_beer@midwest.social 5 points 6 hours ago

They’ve been saying “any day now” for twenty-some years

[–] Breezy@lemmy.world 12 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

At the same time Isreal is like the only country that probably has nukes yet refuses to acknowledge it.

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[–] Rozauhtuno@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 8 hours ago

Why that damn bullet had to hit the firefighter instead?

I'm so fucking tired.

[–] FistingEnthusiast@lemmynsfw.com 99 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

He's an idiot who has never been able to distinguish between his fantasies and reality

He's spent a lifetime making shit up, and never being held to account for it

He's a child, and what's worse, he has dementia.

He also lies as easily as he breathes. Truth means nothing to him. He sees being honest as a weakness

[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 43 points 12 hours ago (11 children)

Just the person to entrust the most powerful military of the world with.

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[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 7 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Pretty consistently it's been reported that Iran has been increasing its capabilities to quickly create a nuclear weapon should they need to, rather than simply embarking immediately on constructing nukes.

And honestly, at this point, they'd be stupid not to, since the main negotiator (the US) of their opposing coalition has proven to be utterly unwilling to maintain any agreements regarding denuclearization for more than 4 years at a time.

[–] davepleasebehave@lemmy.world 6 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

at this point a Nuke in Iranian hands would probably calm the region down

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[–] solsangraal@lemmy.zip 45 points 11 hours ago (6 children)

why tf would a fascist dictator give a rat's ass about "reasons" to plunge multiple countries into war? he wants war, that's what's going to happen

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[–] cyrano@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 points 10 hours ago
[–] peoplebeproblems@midwest.social 16 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

This whole thing still has me scratching my head.

Such a large portion of the West gets a raging boner about coming to Israel's aide. I get it from the strange doomsday cult belief where something about Israel at war triggers the rapture or some shit. But I don't really believe that's what the western world leaders actually believe.

Trump has his own reality, and only a divine entity understands what's going on in the space between his ears.

Ignoring Trump and the doomsday cult thing, the other things I can think of:

  1. US and Europe want an established western sympathizing military power in the middle-east. Some sort of remnant of the Cold war.

  2. US and Europe want a military western sympathizing military power with close proximity to the Suez Canal and red Sea, as well as the Mediterranean.

  3. The "Sampson Option" that Israel has is completely legitimate and Israel is ready to obliterate everyone if they don't get their way.

  4. There's some economic or strategic value the West won't acknowledge.

Even with all that, attack Iran? Iran is not remotely similar to Iraq. Iran will put up much more of a fight. It also won't be a "forever war" like fascists dream about.

[–] Aqarius@lemmy.world 4 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Because the fatwa declares: "Israel has a right to defend itself". Denying it is haram, and infidels must be punished.

At a certain point, it stops being about enforcing the fatwa, and becomes about defending your right to declare fatwas.

[–] peoplebeproblems@midwest.social 2 points 3 hours ago

Using Islamic terminology to describe the driving force of a Christian nationalist coming to the aid of Jewish Zionists to fight an Islamic Hegemony has my head hurting in new ways.

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[–] 13igTyme@lemmy.world 6 points 8 hours ago

Trump is going to end up getting the spies killed like he did on his first term.

[–] rumimevlevi 1 points 5 hours ago

Where are the zionist who claimes that iran was building a nuke?

[–] underwire212@lemm.ee 1 points 5 hours ago

How exactly does one become a spy?

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