Yeah after a good bit of my own investigation, they just seem on par with any other poor country. Not something I'm going to worship, but not something I'm going to spend time complaining about either.

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 12 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Lmao dude who stans for North Korea, honestly? I bet you’re gonna tell me the best party is a juche party, because a juche party is mandatory

[+] jackeroni@lemmy.ml -18 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

People who maintain an open mind and break through the tri-force of western propaganda

[+] MtMcK@lemm.ee 9 points 13 hours ago (3 children)

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[–] pinkapple@lemmy.ml 0 points 8 hours ago

Absolute fucking westoid: "this Confucianist (culturally not so much religiously in NK) society that I don't understand at all does things even slightly differently than our representative republican bipartisan grift completely corrupted by capitalism that we have the audacity to call democracy??? (classic eurocentric 19th century "scientific" racism where the social systems of Europe were automatically the peak of human social development and everything else was automatically backwards, inferior, oppressive etc)

Then it's an autocratic oppressive regime that commits heinous crimes against its citizens and it's also evil (westoids need good and evil because their understanding of the world doesn't go beyond LOTR)."

Great collection of US foreign policy buzzwords and cliches that paint a suggestive emotional picture without invoking a single historical fact or example. Can't use things that can be disputed as easily as pointing out that they originate in South Korean propaganda.

Now let's see you doing the same for all the monarchies in Europe, the Gulf and Asia that the US is fully aligned with including dictatorships in the past, what they did with prisoners etc. Don't forget to include that Murica has the greatest ratio of prisoners in the world and designs laws that put (primarily black) people to jail over bs victimless crimes like drug possession or just "paraphernalia" and keep them there for years. Can those people vote in your grand democratic white state? Go on you democracy warrior.

Oh also make a brave attempt to explain why there's a significant tendency among NK defectors to commit suicide in SK. Are they missing evil oppressive regimes?

[–] jackeroni@lemmy.ml -5 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

"Megalomaniac dictator" running the "most oppressive regimes" that also just happen to have good housing, a strong and healthy workforce with strong worker protections and universal healthcare. Righttttt

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 1 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

I’m willing to bet a shitload of money that you’ve never actually even been to South Korea (and definitely not North Korea) and have no idea what the fuck you’re talking about.

[–] pinkapple@lemmy.ml 3 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

But you went to both and got the grand tour and somehow everyone spoke earnestly to your western ears and said "we hate it here, all day I wish for some McDonalds and Starbucks democracy but the Kims are blocking progress"? Are you openly advertising that you're a spook?

It's painfully easy to figure out that the wildest stories about NK are circulated by SK as propaganda based on "anonymous sources", stuff like NK executing their football team for embarrassing the nation etc. There's never external corroboration for these tales that only fools believe without evidence but western media rush to circulate.

Also little reminder for context, SK immigrants to the US after the Korean War were primarily such far right extremist scum that they're the only group that got holed up in their exploitative little liquor shops in ghettos during the LA riots and shot back at the protesters with rifles. And low key helped start the riots when one of those extremely racist Korean shop owners shot a 13 year old black girl in the head over a (false) accusation that she had stolen a soda.

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 0 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Man, NK apologists are fucking wild

[–] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

NK has nothing to apologize for, they were the victims of one of the most devastating bombing campaigns in history

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 hours ago

Did you miss the part where pretty much the whole fucking UN lined up behind SK because they were the ones who were attacked? And how the security council voted overwhelmingly (after the Soviets stormed out, but the meeting did not conclude) to support SK? And how 63 different countries gave SK some form of direct military assistance?

But by all means - continue spewing your bad faith misinformation diatribe.

[–] TheBeege@lemmy.world 3 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

You wanna cite your sources for that? Every time I see nice images from NK, there's no people. Contrast that with Seoul, where I can't get away from people 😅

[–] m532@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 7 hours ago

I have seen many images from there with people. Skill issue

[–] affenlehrer@feddit.org 0 points 13 hours ago

I believe North Korea is a pretty dangerous place to live. However, I don't know if that's true because them being so closed off and inaccessible makes it very easy to basically say anything about them (let's say they eat newborns every Tuesday for lunch) and there's no way to fact check it.

[–] robocall@lemmy.world 17 points 16 hours ago (3 children)

It's definitely a very poor country

[–] dessalines@lemmy.ml 8 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Look up the arduous march, and how the US terrorized them during this period.

[–] A_Very_Big_Fan@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago

I don't think anyone is arguing the US wasn't responsible for the current state of affairs, but ok

[–] dumbass@quokk.au 13 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

I liked that I didn't even have to look at the instance to know it was .ml

[–] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

"You're from instance I don't like" isn't a particularly strong argument

[–] A_Very_Big_Fan@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

You're being awful defensive towards someone who wasn't making any arguments

[–] MBech@feddit.dk 10 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

And who gave you the information that made you think the dprk isn't that bad?

[–] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 hours ago

Long and easily verifiable history of western media stories about NK being proven completely wrong+obvious foreign policy motive for lying=dismiss stories until they're proven true

[–] m532@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 7 hours ago

Science