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[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 68 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

stalin also evetuanlly purged his own loyalists after becoming paranoid.

[–] Jiggle_Physics@sh.itjust.works 36 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

I mean a less harsh version of that has been going on. Trump has ejected many people that used to be in his inner circle, and has, or has tried, to fire almost the whole federal government, too many people who got there without him to trust

[–] OCATMBBL@lemmy.world 9 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Oh don't worry, he's still trying to get feds to quit, and they're drooling at adding sycophantic bullshit to the hiring process. All while eroding union protections, benefits, and pay.

All while the Democrats vote down attempts to combat Trump, but have all the time in the world to sabotage the primary resultant nominee in NYC. Why have a primary if you're not going to go with the results? That's not a primary - that's just bullshit.

This country is a fucking joke.

[–] Schadrach@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 9 hours ago

Why have a primary if you’re not going to go with the results? That’s not a primary - that’s just bullshit.

Welcome to the DNC. Their primaries (at least the bigger ones) have been bullshit for a long time. Like, they're notorious for bullshit regarding primaries. I like to point to my own state in 2016 as an example, where Clinton won the primary despite getting around 35% of the vote while Sanders won in every county and Clinton didn't even manage second in every county.

The main difference is that this time the "wrong" candidate won despite the bullshit, so now he needs to lose the general, whatever that requires. Again, welcome to the DNC.

[–] tetris11@lemmy.ml 17 points 15 hours ago (1 children)
[–] squaresinger@lemmy.world 14 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Not exactly. While I understand the satisfaction of seeing these asshats getting their faces eaten by the leopard, the ones being purged are the ones that are most likely to keep him somewhat in check, leaving only scared little yes men behind.

[–] tetris11@lemmy.ml 1 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (1 children)

In a one party system that would be a problem. In a two party system, it just drives the ex-communicated into the arms of their past enemy. (Whilst weakening any progressive thought within that party as they bend over backwards to appease the new influx of political support....)

[–] squaresinger@lemmy.world 6 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

You misunderstand the nature of the US right now. It is not a two-party system anymore.

[–] tetris11@lemmy.ml 2 points 11 hours ago

well I was hinting at the partisan ratchet effect in the last part of my comment there, but fair

[–] Etterra@discuss.online 47 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

It turns out the Red Scare was about the wrong Reds the whole time.

[–] Fleur_@aussie.zone 9 points 15 hours ago

Been saying it for a while, better dead than red.

[–] fox2263@lemmy.world 23 points 18 hours ago

Hah use their communist rhetoric back at them

[–] mienshao@lemmy.world 128 points 23 hours ago (10 children)

I fucking love that he chose to call them stalinists. In addition to it being true, it send a fuck you to the alt-right and the alt-left (who love to talk up stalin as of late)

[–] Doom@ttrpg.network 14 points 22 hours ago (7 children)

Who in the alt left is talking about Stalin lol maybe some whackos online

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 6 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Stalin took the Russian state from an agricultural backwater to a Space Age superpower in a matter of twenty years.

If he'd started out a Virginia plantation owner instead of a Georgian bank robber, capitalists would have loved him. He'd be bigger than Churchill.

American liberals love (the whitewashed version of) FDR because they see the quasi-socialism of the mid-20th century as the morally correct path. Eastern Europeans - who came through two world wars and repeated genocides on every front - have a lot more of an appetite for Iron Fisted Dictator[Communist] after enduring generations of Iron Fisted Dictator[Monarchist]

[–] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 1 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

But the way in which he did it was very costly. Stalin is comparable to Musk in that sense. In love with technology and factories, but too focussed on advancement no matter the human cost. Everything was about efficiency.

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[–] thespcicifcocean@lemmy.world 61 points 19 hours ago (3 children)
[–] squaresinger@lemmy.world 20 points 15 hours ago

maybe some whackos online

Checks out.

[–] SolarMonkey@slrpnk.net 17 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (3 children)

Who, you know, MIGHT be real people but probably aren’t for the most part..

I just assume any .ml account is a propaganda bot. Because even if they are real people.. they are propaganda bots.

[–] irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

Lemmy is far too small to bot.
lemmy.ml is just friendly to those people, so it attracts them.

[–] Klear@lemmy.world 9 points 15 hours ago

lemmy.ml was built by those people, sometimes it feels for the express purpose of spreading their bullshit.

[–] squaresinger@lemmy.world 6 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah, that's plausible.

Lemmy.ml only has ~2100 monthly active users. I would guess that likely at least half of them are randos who just joined what they thought was the default instance.

That leaves about 1000 or so (likely even less) active tankies. That's not a lot of people. I'm pretty sure you could find more than that amount of tankies in pretty much every single metropolis worldwide.

[–] Breezy@lemmy.world 3 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

If its only a thousand people, can we just ignore them then.

[–] squaresinger@lemmy.world 8 points 12 hours ago

Currently, Lemmy only has 46 000 monthly active accounts in total, so 1 000 is quite a significant share of that. Especially considering that these 1000 are very vocal.

Remember, this is not Reddit or Facebook with billions of active users. Lemmy in its entirety is smaller than some phpbb forums used to be.

I mean, ~3500 of these monthly active accounts are from lemmynsfw.com alone, and these are most likely double accounts for people who have accounts on a non-nsfw instance. And in general it's quite likely the the amount of monthly active accounts is much larger than the number of actual monthly active users, considering that a significant portion of users will have more than one lemmy account and that there are some moderation bots and stuff like that around.

[–] tetris11@lemmy.ml 4 points 15 hours ago (1 children)
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[–] Genius@lemmy.zip 0 points 16 hours ago

They're robots, Morty, I don't respect them

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[–] CorruptCheesecake@lemmy.world 27 points 19 hours ago

I voted for him in the primary, then in the general as a write in and I would fucking do it again. Bern the billionaire's faces off.

[–] justineie_bobeanie@lemmy.world 0 points 9 hours ago (7 children)

This rhetoric adds nothing of subtance to the political understanding of either contemporary Trumpism or the history of Stalinism. Sanders only serves to obscure the meaning of this critically important understanding. Fascism and Stalinism are not the same.

To be clear, Stalinism took hold in the Soviet Union as a result of its historic backwardness and international isolation. The failure of the revolution to take root in Europe (largely a result of the historic betrayal of Social Democracy in the Second International) created conditions for the consolidation of a nationalist clique and a bureaucratic degeneration of the workers state that formed from the victory of the October Revolution. That is Stalinism. This political form was responsible for mass murder of the old cadres of the revolution who opposed it, systematic betrayal of the workers movement internationally, collaboration with imperialism allowing for the restabilization of capitalism during its repeated periods of crisis, and ultimately the destruction of Soviet Union union and the restoration of capitalism in 1991. A detailed and correct historical understanding of this history is critically important for the working class as it enters into a new period of revolutionary struggle.

Sanders use of the term as a political slur wrongly directed at Trump confuses the issue, and ultimately gives capitalism a pass for its own crisis. Trump is not simply an evil individual responsible for wrecking America. He is the product of the terminal crisis of capitalism at the center of world imperialism. He represents a financial oligarchy whose wealth and influence has grown increasingly disconnected from social development and the process of production. The historic content of Trumpism has a stronger relationship to the fascism of Mussolini and Hitler than the national labor bureaucraticism of Stalin.

This is no small error by Sanders. This is a deliberate falsification that is calculated to confuse political consciousness and hinder the development of revolutionary conclusions. It should be clear to anyone who takes more than a second to think about it that the comparison to Stalinism is shallow. The historic content of Trumpism is its own.

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[–] SassyRamen@lemmy.world 7 points 20 hours ago

Spot fucking on

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