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[–] JargonWagon@lemmy.world 15 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Too many people here just blindly hating on Bernie and nitpicking how "Stalinism is technically incorrect". Where's the Trump hate? Bring some of that shit out. I'll start.

Fuck Trump, MAGA, and their entire cult of personality.

[–] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 0 points 1 hour ago (3 children)

Because turbo libbing is not the solution to defeating Trump. It is similar to saying Israel has the right to defend itself before each statement. Bernie is actively antagonizing commies by repeating US imperialist propaganda and applying it to someone he does not like.

[–] Abigaelle@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 43 minutes ago

If you feel antagonised when someone criticise Stalin then that's a you problem though.

Staline's Image Cult isn't "imperialist propaganda"

[–] m0stlyharmless@lemmy.zip 1 points 50 minutes ago

Quite frankly, I think that the voters who would be put off by Bernie stating that MAGA and support for Stalin share similarities are both worthless and minuscule.

[–] vivalapivo@lemmy.today 1 points 59 minutes ago

You have to make bridge statements in order to reach a broader audience

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 6 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

The GOP has become a Stalinist Party

They haven't killed remotely enough fascists to earn this distinction.

[–] cepelinas@sopuli.xyz 1 points 8 minutes ago

They have deported enough people.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 15 points 2 hours ago (2 children)

I'd argue it's a satanist party as well. They're doing all the shit that was prophesized that the devil would make dumb people do, worshipping false idols, worshipping money, getting the mark of the beast, that sort of shit

This is coming from an staunch atheist who just notices the irony

[–] Notyou@sopuli.xyz 7 points 1 hour ago

I was confused on what was Satanic until I realized you were talking about the Christian version on Satanic and not the Church of Satan.

I was super surprised by the irony after I saw all those golden idols of trump. If I was a Christian I would be highly offended at these people trying to align with me. Those are $100 bills with trumps face on it, that they covered the goat idol. 2 separate events. 1 was a CPAC and 1 was at Mara Lago. 🙄

Satanists are cooler than these assholes.

[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 14 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

I cannot imagine being enough of a sycophant to wear a hat that says "Trump was right about everything". Nobody's right about everything, and Trump is less right about things than most people because he's incredibly stupid.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

So much of the last 30 years of Republicanism (maybe 60 years, if you're a Nixonian) boils down to Owning The Libs.

The guy with the "Trump was right..." hat will happily bitch about all the things Trump is doing wrong. He just won't do it in earshot of anyone he thinks is to his Left.

Trump is less right about things than most people

Trump is turning the rhetoric of the Reagan Era into reality. He's taking the orthodoxy of the party seriously, rather than using it as bait to gull the rubes into another round of tax cuts and privatizations.

It's this commitment to orthodoxy that his base loves. Also what makes him look stupid.

[–] justineie_bobeanie@lemmy.world 3 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

This rhetoric adds nothing of subtance to the political understanding of either contemporary Trumpism or the history of Stalinism. Sanders only serves to obscure the meaning of this critically important understanding. Fascism and Stalinism are not the same.

To be clear, Stalinism took hold in the Soviet Union as a result of its historic backwardness and international isolation. The failure of the revolution to take root in Europe (largely a result of the historic betrayal of Social Democracy in the Second International) created conditions for the consolidation of a nationalist clique and a bureaucratic degeneration of the workers state that formed from the victory of the October Revolution. That is Stalinism. This political form was responsible for mass murder of the old cadres of the revolution who opposed it, systematic betrayal of the workers movement internationally, collaboration with imperialism allowing for the restabilization of capitalism during its repeated periods of crisis, and ultimately the destruction of Soviet Union union and the restoration of capitalism in 1991. A detailed and correct historical understanding of this history is critically important for the working class as it enters into a new period of revolutionary struggle.

Sanders use of the term as a political slur wrongly directed at Trump confuses the issue, and ultimately gives capitalism a pass for its own crisis. Trump is not simply an evil individual responsible for wrecking America. He is the product of the terminal crisis of capitalism at the center of world imperialism. He represents a financial oligarchy whose wealth and influence has grown increasingly disconnected from social development and the process of production. The historic content of Trumpism has a stronger relationship to the fascism of Mussolini and Hitler than the national labor bureaucraticism of Stalin.

This is no small error by Sanders. This is a deliberate falsification that is calculated to confuse political consciousness and hinder the development of revolutionary conclusions. It should be clear to anyone who takes more than a second to think about it that the comparison to Stalinism is shallow. The historic content of Trumpism is its own.

[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 3 points 1 hour ago

One is fascism, the other is red fascism. Different ideologies but same cheeks from the same arse as one might put it.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 56 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

stalin also evetuanlly purged his own loyalists after becoming paranoid.

[–] Jiggle_Physics@sh.itjust.works 28 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

I mean a less harsh version of that has been going on. Trump has ejected many people that used to be in his inner circle, and has, or has tried, to fire almost the whole federal government, too many people who got there without him to trust

[–] OCATMBBL@lemmy.world 5 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Oh don't worry, he's still trying to get feds to quit, and they're drooling at adding sycophantic bullshit to the hiring process. All while eroding union protections, benefits, and pay.

All while the Democrats vote down attempts to combat Trump, but have all the time in the world to sabotage the primary resultant nominee in NYC. Why have a primary if you're not going to go with the results? That's not a primary - that's just bullshit.

This country is a fucking joke.

[–] Schadrach@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 1 hour ago

Why have a primary if you’re not going to go with the results? That’s not a primary - that’s just bullshit.

Welcome to the DNC. Their primaries (at least the bigger ones) have been bullshit for a long time. Like, they're notorious for bullshit regarding primaries. I like to point to my own state in 2016 as an example, where Clinton won the primary despite getting around 35% of the vote while Sanders won in every county and Clinton didn't even manage second in every county.

The main difference is that this time the "wrong" candidate won despite the bullshit, so now he needs to lose the general, whatever that requires. Again, welcome to the DNC.

[–] tetris11@lemmy.ml 15 points 8 hours ago (1 children)
[–] squaresinger@lemmy.world 10 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Not exactly. While I understand the satisfaction of seeing these asshats getting their faces eaten by the leopard, the ones being purged are the ones that are most likely to keep him somewhat in check, leaving only scared little yes men behind.

[–] tetris11@lemmy.ml 1 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (1 children)

In a one party system that would be a problem. In a two party system, it just drives the ex-communicated into the arms of their past enemy. (Whilst weakening any progressive thought within that party as they bend over backwards to appease the new influx of political support....)

[–] squaresinger@lemmy.world 4 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

You misunderstand the nature of the US right now. It is not a two-party system anymore.

[–] tetris11@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 hours ago

well I was hinting at the partisan ratchet effect in the last part of my comment there, but fair

[–] fox2263@lemmy.world 22 points 10 hours ago

Hah use their communist rhetoric back at them

[–] Etterra@discuss.online 42 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

It turns out the Red Scare was about the wrong Reds the whole time.

[–] Fleur_@aussie.zone 8 points 7 hours ago

Been saying it for a while, better dead than red.

[–] CorruptCheesecake@lemmy.world 25 points 11 hours ago

I voted for him in the primary, then in the general as a write in and I would fucking do it again. Bern the billionaire's faces off.

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