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[–] leftthegroup 11 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Didn't some legislation come out banning making laws against AI? (which I realize is a fucking crazy sentence in the first place- nothing besides rights should just get immunity to all potential new laws)

So the cities aren't even the bad guys here. The Senate is.

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[–] jsomae@lemmy.ml 12 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (50 children)

I know she's exaggerating but this post yet again underscores how nobody understands that it is training AI which is computationally expensive. Deployment of an AI model is a comparable power draw to running a high-end videogame. How can people hope to fight back against things they don't understand?

[–] PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca 6 points 6 days ago (12 children)

Right, but that's kind of like saying "I don't kill babies" while you use a product made from murdered baby souls. Yes you weren't the one who did it, but your continued use of it caused the babies too be killed.

There is no ethical consumption under capitalism and all that, but I feel like here is a line were crossing. This fruit is hanging so low it's brushing the grass.

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[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 12 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (11 children)

1 prompt is avg 1Wh of electricity -> typical AC runs avg 1,500 W = 2.4 seconds of AC per prompt.

Energy capacity is really not a problem first world countries should face. We have this solved and you're just taking the bait of blaming normal dudes using miniscule amounts of power while billionaires fly private jets for afternoon getaways.

[–] InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world 6 points 6 days ago (3 children)

A lot of things are solved, but capitalism means that we need a profit motive to act. World hunger is another good example. We know how to make fertilizer and how to genetically alter crops to ensure we never have a crop failure. We have trains and refrigeration to take food anywhere we want. Pretty much any box that we need to check to solve this problem has been. The places that have food problems largely have to do with poverty, which at this point is a polite way to say "I won't make money, so I am okay with them starving"

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[–] crumbguzzler5000@feddit.org 12 points 6 days ago

Can we not all just organise to go and shut these places down?

[–] ViatorOmnium@piefed.social 9 points 6 days ago (28 children)

Two wrongs don't make a right. And if your neighbour is dosing the neighbourhood with gasoline while wildfires are on the horizon, you smack him, you don't go and get your own can.

[–] doeknius_gloek@discuss.tchncs.de 13 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Great, now this might work with my neighbor, but how exactly do I smack mega corps and the state? Are we talking eco terrorism here or do you have some other idea that hasn't been tried in the last decades?

I mean, climate change isn't new but humanity still fucks up the planet and that does not seem to change. Why should we have to sweat at home while professionalized greed burns down everything around us? I will gladly take individual responsibility, but not alone.

Actually, a failing power grid here and there might act as a wake-up call and then we can start talking about solutions, not just symptomatic treatment.

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[–] burgerpocalyse@lemmy.world 6 points 6 days ago

i feel it would actually kill some people to just say, yes, ai uses a lot of power, and no other qualifying statements tacked on

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