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Hello m@teys,

I've been waiting for this a long time (half a year), personally. After seeing the surge in piefed instances, i.e. blahaj, .ca, .zip, quokk.au, and .world creating their own instances, and clients guaranteeing future piefed support, we've been thinking about potentially opening an instance in the future. Not a guarantee, just an idea. This isn't a voting thread, just a discussion. Later on we'll actually vote on this.

Do note that this thread will not guarantee an instance; we are discussing a hypothetical. Suggestions? Ideas? Criticisms? make your voice heard.

Have a good week!

pie picture comes from here

governance type: sense check

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[–] HBK@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I would love this! I'd totally be in!

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[–] viking@infosec.pub 7 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

Yes please! I've already joined piefed.ca to be able to support a platform without sponsoring communist propaganda, but they seem to have issues federating content properly, it takes over 24h to see new posts from Lemmy, and many discussions will be over at that point.

This very post for example is not visible there at all.

Would hope that with more instances we'd also get to see content sooner.

[–] Blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] viking@infosec.pub 4 points 3 weeks ago (7 children)

Ah, that explains a lot. I don't want to join the main instance, nothing against it, but I've seen lemmy.world go overboard, so prefer to stick to some more "indie" instances.

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[–] Stanley_Pain@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

No idea what piefed is but I'm not interested in any more "apps" or some such.

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[–] DragonofKnowledge@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Seems like it would be a lot more work and potential attack surface for what's essentially redundant.

Also seeing other comments, I'm out of the loop. What's so bad about the lemmy devs?

[–] fxomt@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

It wouldn't be too much of a burden, and piefed has some very nice additions to what lemmy offers

What's so bad about the lemmy devs?

https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/43791059

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[–] randomaside@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

I am only tangentially aware what's going with the developments so far in the developer community. I'm thinking about it and so I'm going back to how I got here from Reddit myself. These are just my two cents.

There some realities to deal with which are end user cases. I think the major push off of reddit to Lemmy was the closing of the third party apps. This is what provided Reddit usability for a large scale of its base. When developers left reddit their userbase went with them because that was the app they liked.

The benefits were clear, safety from enshittification, freedom of speech, and the same advertisement free user experience from third party apps with responsive user interfaces. It's hard to admit there was a swath of users who probably moved because they used SYNC for Android and strongly disliked the mobile reddit UX. That whole period has cooled off now and people probably have less change energy in them now then before.

I would think that that to make a successful leap from Lemmy to Piefed, there would probably have to be a clear migration path that is relatively seamless. All communities, post history, and app compatibility would have to come with it.

Now with that being said, I wouldn't want to burden the maintainers of any instances with additional overhead however I do trust them to be more aware of the inner workings of the systems they host than myself. Sometimes it's worth standing up an environment to see if it's abilities can stand the test of your use case.

For that reason alone I would be for standing up alternatives at least to try them out.

Thanks

[–] fxomt@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 3 weeks ago

I would think that that to make a successful leap from Lemmy to Piefed, there would probably have to be a clear migration path that is relatively seamless. All communities, post history, and app compatibility would have to come with it.

What you describe here is [kinda] possible, at least for the latter. The former is, but that would mean shutting down the lemmy instance and focusing on the piefed one; and we're not planning this

Now with that being said, I wouldn't want to burden the maintainers of any instances with additional overhead however I do trust them to be more aware of the inner workings of the systems they host than myself

No worries, we would be able to handle it fine

Thanks for your reponse!

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[–] jbone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 weeks ago

If there is admin bandwidth, why not?

[–] irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 weeks ago

I think its a good idea, more choice is almost never bad.
I might not use it too much if it happens because I'm too used to lemmy itself though.

[–] curbstickle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 weeks ago

Personally I'm for it, I think it has some approaches that are more interesting (topics for example).

So as long as its not a pain to run, I'm into it and would try it out for sure.

[–] UniversalMonk@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 weeks ago

I like piefed and think it's a great idea.

[–] quediuspayu@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 weeks ago

As far as I understood a few days ago, there's no difference between the two for a user since both can interact with each other. To me looks more of an admin thing, so very little opinion from my part.

Just one thing, I will want an account there too.

[–] Martineski@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] phantomwise@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

My first thought when seeing the pic was "Is it AI?". I need a vacation. From life.

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