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[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 80 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Explanation: During the start of WW2, Poland was invaded by Nazi Germany. Poland had a war plan for this that involved buying time for Britain and France to come to their aid. Unfortunately, the Soviet Union invaded from the east once Poland's forces were committed against Germany in the west, leading to the total collapse of the Polish defense. The Soviets then met and shook hands with the Nazis over their fantastic cooperation in pursuit of the partition and genocide of Poland.

The Soviets then spent the next year-and-a-half imprisoning 500,000 Poles (approximately 10% of the Polish population under their control) and murdering 150,000 (approximately 3% of the total Polish population under their control); having already murdered 100,000 Poles in Soviet territory the year before that

They were interrupted after that by the Nazis invading the Soviet Union itself.

[–] Cris_Color@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

YIKES... I straight up did not know that...

Oof ouch my misinformed 😬

[–] Zwiebel@feddit.org 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)
[–] Cris_Color@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

That like seems to be broken, neither the Wikipedia app nor my browser can open it

In my browser I get:

Bad title

Did you mean: Molotov?

The requested page title contains unsupported characters: "%E2".

[–] fakeman_pretendname@feddit.uk 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You can search directly for "Molotov–Ribbentrop Pact".

[–] Cris_Color@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Super interesting, thank you! :)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molotov%E2%80%93Ribbentrop_Pact?wprov=sfla1 here's a hopefully working link for anyone else interested

Edit: I think maybe something is broken with the Wikipedia app, it won't open that link either, though it at least seems to be working in my browser

[–] Zwiebel@feddit.org 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] Cris_Color@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Yes, thank you 😊

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

It reads like they think invasion means when you first attack, and not simply being where you're not wanted through force with the intent of controlling it.

"Germany invaded Poland, Russia merely occupied it!"

[–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I read it as "by the time the USSR invaded it was already Germany's summer home and no longer 'Poland' proper" which is also still just as ridiculous.

[–] VindictiveJudge@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Especially inside of seventeen days.

[–] Maalus@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

And then they rounded up officers, teachers, politicians and killed them.

You also gotta love the disonance between the Warsaw uprising - where Russians stopped on the eastern bank of thr Vistula river to wait for the Polish uprising that was launched to "welcome them to a Polish city, not a nazi one" to die out, and them saying "we went in only to help you guuuuyys".

There is a "Polish bard", Kaczmarski, who sang protest songs. You might even remember "Mury" - Walls, it recently got unearthed again in 2020 during the Belarus protests. Anyway, he's got a song about a russian tank, that doesn't understand why it isn't fighting. It's basically the machine spirit yearning to fulfill its purpose, watching the other bank through an empty periscope. Talking about its armor, which is heated up by the September heat and yearning to attack. Complaining about the cold engine, the engine grease stagnating and coagulating because noone sat behind the viewfinder / targetting reticle for a month. It talks about the "larynx of the barrel yearning for the taste of a projectile going through it". But the only taste it gets is the smoke wafting over from the other bank of the river. The tank hears the screams of Poles in the headsets that have been taken off. It ask why it didn't cross the river sprinting. It begs to be able to grab the sleek waves with its tracks. It begs to be able to "support the barricades with fire". It doesn't want the city, which is so close, to call its inaction "a betrayal".

Sadly, the HQ is silent, as silent as the flowers on the bank of the river, behind which the tank lays hidden. Because a ruskie tank won't fight for the Poles, the ruskie tank is to wait till they are all wiped out.

And when the uprising burns out in a darkened lightning, they'll turn on the engine. They'll wake the blood of the machine. So it could watch the city that was so close, taking over ruins and rubble without a fight.

Honestly, for anyone even remotely thinking if Russia / Soviet Union was "right" or "had a point" or "were the saviours of Europe", just find lyrics to songs about World War 2 that talk about specific events. You will very quickly be rid of that notion.

[–] RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz 5 points 1 day ago

Nazis attacked Poland and Soviet Union just entered it. Lel

[–] DeusUmbra@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Hey guys, just remember, no one ever invaded Russia, it's not even a real country, or even a real people or culture, just a mass of land that has changed hands multiple times between real peoples, like Ukrainians and Mongols. The lands known as "Russia" are just free real estate, and it is absolutely OK to take it.