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How are people sending emails from their self hosted apps? I Thought MailSender would be good but i guess not. Im about to try SendPulse now. Why isnt there a service that doesnt care what you do with your emails as long as you only sending max a few emails a day?

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[–] Luci@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I just setup a gmail account, just gotta turn on legacy smtp

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[–] adiyasl@alien.top 3 points 2 years ago

I use mailgun. They give 1000 emails for free monthly which is plenty for me.

[–] GNUGradyn@alien.top 2 points 2 years ago

Send grid has no approval process and will give you 100/day for free

[–] legrenabeach@alien.top 2 points 2 years ago

Postfix installed on the server itself. My apps don't send many emails, why go through the complication and cost of hosting email externally?

[–] smnhdy@alien.top 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] wally40@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Same, set up a separate email that I use exclusively for services. Did this as if the app password is hacked, they have access to an account with nothing but notifications.

[–] MrGG@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 years ago

Why isnt there a service that doesnt care what you do with your emails as long as you only sending max a few emails a day?

Because it would be overrun with phishing abuse in a matter of minutes?

[–] SysAdmin-Universe@alien.top 2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Amazon SES. My monthly bills are between 3 and 8 cents per month

[–] unixbox911@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I'm noob here, how to setup spam filters while trying to receive emails

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[–] Lynx323@alien.top 2 points 2 years ago
[–] JM-Lemmi@alien.top 2 points 2 years ago

AWS SES or Hetzner (where my mail id also hosted)

[–] dumbasPL@alien.top 2 points 2 years ago

Guys, we are on r/selfhosted, and all the top replies are recommending cloud services? The actual fuck. I personally host my own postal server and it works great.

[–] scubanarc@alien.top 2 points 2 years ago

Docker Mail Server

All you need is a static IP address, a DNS record, a PTR record, an SPF record, and a DKIM record. See, it's simple, right?

[–] Powerstream@alien.top 2 points 2 years ago

Started using Purelymail. Easy setup with my multiple domains. Really cheap.

[–] pigers1986@alien.top 2 points 2 years ago

gmail with separate account than primary one

[–] Spider-One@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago
[–] tschloss@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Are you sending lots of mails to a large group of users. If not why not use any normal e-mail service like gmail?

[–] stoneobscurity@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

gmail with an app specific password.

[–] Jonteponte71@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

I did not know this feature existed. On to creating a separate gmail for my services!

[–] focusontech87@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Any privacy implications with this method?

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[–] sebampueromori@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago
[–] nutterbg@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Mailjet. Free for 6000 emails/mo, which for me is plenty to cover backup notification, monitoring system notifications, etc.

[–] anachronisdev@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

A bit overkill but mxroute. Complete own Mail-environment for sending and receiving.

About 50.- a year I think it was

[–] capecodcarl@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Check for Black Friday deals at mxroute. I signed up last year for $10/year.

[–] lighthawk16@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Selfhosted Mailcow.

[–] primevaldark@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I use Fastmail with a specific domain and/or aliases to separate it easily by rules as needed. But I do pay for Fastmail and only send emails to myself so may or may not be applicable to you.

[–] thesmiddy@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

I do the same. I like how each application gets its own password and only gets the permissions I want to give it (usually just smtp)

[–] ImissHurley@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

The SMTP relay that comes with my M365 tenant.

[–] madrascafe@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago
[–] ggezboye@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

I have secondary gmail account just for that.

[–] hunterhulk@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

i personally found SendGrid easy to setup and cost effective

[–] ItzGonzoHD@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago
[–] AvGeekExplorer@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Sendgrid… you’d be well within the free tier.

[–] Tai9ch@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Delegating mail to an external service means you're not self hosting it.

Sending email is something you can just do. There's no need for an external service unless:

  • You're trying to deliver email to external users.
  • You really need your email to get through without ending up in people's spam folder.
[–] reddit_names@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You're trying to deliver email to external users.

You really need your email to get through without ending up in people's spam folder.

So literally everyone actually using email.

[–] Tai9ch@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

No.

Having a couple emails end up in spam boxes isn't that big a deal for many self-hosted app scenarios.

For example, if you have a limited set of users, the setup process can involve getting an email and marking it not spam.

[–] airclay@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

I used zoho. $16/yr for mail.mydomain and myname@mydomain set up. Use groups to set up different streams/mailboxes for all the things (gitlab@/cloud@/admin@/etc). It's super easy to point things at.

[–] crashj@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

G suite account supports inbound and outbound relaying.

[–] Stone_Monarch@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

I use fastmail. Since I'm already paying for it as my normal email service, I started using it as my incomming and outgoing email provider for seldhosted apps. Works fine, no complaints.

[–] FetAkhenaten@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago
[–] scarf3@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Gmail with app specific password + Postfix docker container loganmarchione/docker-postfixrelay. I configure gmail in one spot (the container) and everything else connects to that container to relay out. You can easily limit destination email addresses with the container as well, so you don’t have to worry about an app going rogue.

[–] pcs3rd@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

I pay $7 for a noreply user in my business starter Google workspace.

[–] machstem@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

mxroute

they have a bf sale right now

[–] crazedizzled@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

A VPS with Mailcow.

[–] aadoop6@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Are there any third party services that don't require phone numbers for sign-ups?

[–] Insomniac24x7@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Mailrise + pushover

[–] timo_hzbs@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago
[–] ikbosh@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Interesting to not have seen PostMark mentioned

[–] AfternoonPenalty@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

I got a Black Friday special at MXRoute a few years ago - $15 for the year.

Host whatever domains you want then for email.

Might get a bargain again this year if they do Black Fridays

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