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[–] sprite0@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 days ago

if you could be annoyed into fascism you are a giant piece of shit to begin with.

[–] dvoraqs@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

Let's talk more about how the regressives embraced fascism after getting annoyed by waking up

[–] Ostrakon@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Honestly I wish progressives were more self-aware and could learn to pick their battles. The constant push for ideological purity leads us to leave potential wins on the table as we waste precious social capital on infighting.

We need to focus on the economy, and class issues instead of constantly banging the drum on stuff that working class voters perceive as only affecting tiny minorities. I know we can do more than one thing at once, but when working class, undereducated white folks can't afford to put food on the table, what do you expect them to do?

If we keep losing elections we're not going to be able to do shit, and will continue sliding towards fascism. We need to drastically alter our messaging to reach these people before they become fully entrenched in right wing media death spirals. If we improve living conditions for the majority of folk, it'll be a lot easier to address stuff like trans rights.

[–] sprite0@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

ah yes it's my job to pander to racist bigots i'll never meet because rich people are fucking them over. I'm sure when we get them all fat and happy they will be glad to let me use the bathroom. 🙄 this is how the overton window got where it is.

trans rights are human rights, immigrants rights are human rights, minority rights are human rights, disabled rights are human rights, black rights are human rights, hispanic rights are human rights, indigenous rights are human rights. if the poor illiterate chucklefucks weren't voting against their own interests at every turn maybe they would have better outcomes. i'm not going to compromise for their sake one inch. fucking libs man.

[–] Ostrakon@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This is exactly the kind of rhetoric I'm talking about.

The simple reality is that on a national scale, the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few. It is simply pragmatic to take the path that allows us to help as many people as we can.

Jim Bob the convenience store clerk in a swing stare doesn't give a fuck. He can't feed his kids, and he lacks the fundamental understanding of reality to understand why that's the case. When he sees Dems courting the LGBT crowd, it is very easy to see why he sees this as evidence that they care more about special interest groups than his problems, which are also very real. So he goes to the side that is at least pretending to care about how he feels, even as they pick his pocket.

Do you want to win elections? Do you want to shift the window in the right direction? Or do you want to continue bitching about it, alienating the people you need to vote in your direction whether you like it or not? Regardless of your opinion, their votes matter and will be needed to ever get momentum rolling in the right direction.

You have unrealistic expectations. If you don't care what they think, how can you change their minds? We both know you're not going to arm yourself and overthrow the government. You have no leverage over these people. The only thing we can do is win them over, and your petulant angst in every venue in every corner of the internet decreases the chances of that ever happening.

[–] sprite0@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

hey you want to appease bigots and racists the democratic party has their arms open to you. It's not really working out historically but maybe this time right!? surely if all the queers and non whites learn their place we can make america great again right?

trash liberal values, blocking you and everybody that looks like you

edit: and you know, if I sound a little intolerant, i'm not fucking allowed to use the bathroom when i travel. I'm getting shit on by the government over my travel documents. The government is actively trying to take away the medicine i need to thrive. My friends are being fired from their jobs for no reason. We are all afraid that ICE is coming for us, based on the Trump admins steady implementation of project 2025.

Fuck your hypothetical middle american bigot in his face I hope he chokes on dust. he's the one focused on these issues and making them a problem because he's too stupid to recognize propaganda. we could all have nice things if we weren't busy trying to appease these assholes like you would prefer.

[–] distantsounds@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Old man yell at cloud.

Comedy, like art, reflects the world and its a far different place than it was 20 years ago

Edit: 15 years. He was hitting then