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[–] tehn00bi@lemmy.world 16 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

I made the switch recently for probably the strangest reason.

I’ve been running win 11 for over a year using a shell tool that allowed me to move my task bar to the top of the screen and some other win 10 functionality.

However win 11 removed the ability to move the task bar and my shell program lost most of its functionality. After that I was done.

I’ve Linux off and on since 2002ish so it’s not scary to me and I’m pretty happy with Arch and KDE right now. Still the occasional crash that appears to happen sometimes when watching YouTube.

[–] whotookkarl@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 56 minutes ago (1 children)

If anyone is stuck on windows and not able to switch there's a program called wind hawk that will let you download customizations in windows 11 including moving the bar

[–] tehn00bi@lemmy.world 1 points 22 seconds ago

From my reading all ways to move the task bar have been removed.

[–] dil@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 hour ago

idk how you stayed on windows so long, had I tried linux sooner I wouldve dumped it faster, no software support or piracy for said software if it does have support is rough tho like houdinifx is hard to pirate if not impossible, davinci is easy tho, adobe has no support (no idea if it works well with wine pirated)

[–] JimmyKerr@lemmy.world 14 points 6 hours ago (2 children)
[–] misteloct@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 4 hours ago

It wasn't immediately clear, I think you need to change your username to IUseArchBtw so we all know off the bat.

[–] Bluewing@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Real men and women run Slack. Tarballs Yum!

To head off the zealots-- ./././

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

That's not even close to a proper test of Linux womanhood/manhood.

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 4 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

I couldn't find it is in the article, is this new purchases, or how is this measured. If a computer ships with windows and I install mint on it, how do they know where that tally goes?

[–] dangrousperson@feddit.org 11 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

The stats are from StatCounter which has this in their FAQ:

What methodology is used to calculate Statcounter Global Stats? Statcounter is a web analytics service. Our tracking code is installed on more than 1.5 million sites globally. These sites cover various activities and geographic locations. Every month, we record billions of page views to these sites. For each page view, we analyse the browser/operating system/screen resolution used and we establish if the page view is from a mobile device.

So it's the percentage if web traffic (to sites that use this analytics service)

Ah so that should be pretty accurate then, because the amount of users spoofing their OS is likely fairly low, and I would assume would mostly be Linux users as well, meaning it wouldn't sell the data as being higher than it is, but rather possibly lower.

[–] Bluewing@lemmy.world 4 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

My first guess is the author is aggregating the numbers from either the distros download data directly or they are getting the numbers from some place like Distro Watch. You can even get a crude sense of the increase in new users if you hang out in a distro help forum. I check the r/Fedora sub on reddit a few times a week, (I run Fedora 42 BTW), and there has been enough of an increase in new users posting "OMG, I just ditched Windows and look at my shiny new Gnome/KDE desktop!" to be annoying to some people. It can be hard to find those posts from people looking for help with a problem sometimes.

What no one can say is just how long those shiny new users will stick with Linux or run back to Windows at a later date. My gut feeling is, if half of this new 5% sticks it's a major, major victory for all the distros.

A lot of it kicks back to companies as well. If every time someone interviews for a new job they are telling users they need to run their programs or even just the application for the interview from a Windows machine it pressures users into going back. I always see shit like that for stuff that is even just browser based. I prefer not to install zoom, teams, and such and just open in the browser, but ive run into companies saying their typing tests and other pre employment material only run on Windows. It's usually false, as I never actually have needed it to install Windows, but it sows doubt in people who don't want to take chances when they are already in a potentially tight spot.

[–] te_abstract_art@lemmy.world 14 points 8 hours ago

I'm not in the US, but here in the UK I made the switch too.

I went from Windows PC + Windows laptop ~2 years ago to now having a Linux PC (ZorinOS), Samsung tablet and a home server running Proxmox with an Ubuntu VM for Docker.

Never been happier with my setup. The grass truly is greener over here.

[–] jabjoe@feddit.uk 26 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

Wow, that's excluding Chrome OS, which has 2.71% on it's own. So you could say Linux is at over 7%, but glad they split it so we know.

[–] Wispy2891@lemmy.world 8 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

ChromeOS is going to the Google graveyard, to be replaced by android

(Maybe this is a good thing as Chromebooks have an expiration date averaging 3-5 years where they stop getting Chrome updates, when if it's android can get updates to the browser for a much longer time AND have Firefox as default)

[–] jabjoe@feddit.uk 1 points 3 hours ago

Well yes, but Android now has a Debian container option. If they expose some Wayland/X interface to it for displaying stuff on Android, for a load of stuff, maybe that is good enough for a lot of stuff?

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 2 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (1 children)

Linux as an OS is generally meant as Desktop Linux, and it most definitely is in this context that is about desktop marketshare, Desktop Linux is mostly following freedesktop guidelines, which has traditionally helped standards on Linux a lot to streamline developments. So for instance XFCE/Gnome/KDE desktop apps can be run in all the different desktop environments. For instance also standardizing things like how tray icons work. Freedesktop is part of X.Org Foundation, and Chrome OS does not use X.org or Free Desktop standards at all. The newer Wayland to replace X is also an X.org standard.

So while Chrome OS is based on the Linux kernel, it is NOT a Linux OS in the original sense, a term that became popular decades before Chrome OS or Android became a thing.

If you include Chrome OS you might as well include Android too. As it can run on for instance Raspberry Pi and other mini systems, and could be used as a desktop system.

Chrome OS is a Linux kernel based OS, and not much more than that.
It's somewhat confusing in some situations that Linux as a desktop OS doesn't have a unique name, but it wasn't a problem originally, as what some prefer to call GNU/Linux was made 100% for desktop use originally.

The Linux kernel is way way more widespread and successful than what we usually term Desktop Linux or GNU/Linux.

TLDR:
Linux OS, Desktop Linux, GNU/Linux are generally meant as the same thing.
Chrome OS and Android do not belong in that category. They are Linux based as in the Linux kernel only, but do not follow the standards of Desktop Linux.

[–] jabjoe@feddit.uk 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

This isn't entirely right because Chrome OS is using a lot more of normal desktop Linux than Android does, which basically uses none.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ChromeOS

Android is this completely different thing (built round OpenBinder) that ended up using the Linux kernel for good hardware support. It's basically got nothing to do with desktop Linux, bar needed it to actually build Android. You can argue that Google basically tried forking Linux for Binder and control.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Oh so you can install KDE/Gnome/XFCE apps on Chrome OS and they will work?
You know the "desktop" in Desktop Linux means compatibility is on the desktop apps,and that goes way beyond terminal commands right?

[–] qevlarr@lemmy.world 24 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Every year Linux fans:

👐 It's happening! 👐

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