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A response to Drew Lyton’s "The Future is NOT Self-Hosted"


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[–] HybridSarcasm@lemmy.world 15 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Using an LLM doesn't break the rules. This post's fate will be determined by your votes.

[–] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I appreciate that they mentioned it.

I'm not particularly good at writing, I can understand why someone would ask an LLM to help them clarify their ideas. The intent here is obviously to improve their content rather than as a crutch to feed us shit. Whether it's better than just writing this personally I don't know.

[–] illusionist@lemmy.zip 7 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Back in the day people studied and learned and practiced before publishing

[–] MangoPenguin@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

That web page is 24MB and took over 11s to load on a gigabit connection and fast PC, to show some text with a font that I find very hard to read.

87 individual .js files !

24MB to read some text written by an LLM just makes me sad about the current state of things. Especially since it reads like it was written by one, with the buzzwords and run on sentences that don't always make sense.

I'd rather read someones opinions and thoughts as they wrote them, even if that means it's harder to understand or has less content.

[–] Jimbel@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago

Thank you for this post!

This how social media should work. I want Interoperability between whatsapp, signal threema and so on. Also between garmin, withings, Apple and so on....

[–] lanky_ginger@lemmy.world 51 points 2 weeks ago

If someone can't be arsed to write it, I can't be arsed to read it.

[–] RobotZap10000@feddit.nl 22 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

You may self-host your notes or calendar, but you’re forced to either recreate account systems or give up on interoperability.

I literally just finished setting up Radicale on my old laptop, and now I can access my calendar and contacts through CalDav and CardDav from every single client under the sun. Maybe don't use AI to write your entire article. I won't even bother reading the rest of the article if you don't even get this right.

[–] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Caldav, carddav, and email are probably the only easily portable data interops.

I guess photos can be re-uploaded but that's not easy.

Do notes transfer though? I know Outlook, Gmail/GSuite, and Apple all have notes but I don't know if they transfer.

[–] RobotZap10000@feddit.nl 4 points 2 weeks ago

What exactly are "notes"? CalDav has a to-do feature that might do what you need it to do.

[–] Vendetta9076@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 weeks ago

If you mean a note taking app, then as long as your old service isn't user-hostile it should just all be markdown.

[–] Onomatopoeia@lemmy.cafe 2 points 2 weeks ago

As if calendar systems currently interop easily, haha.

[–] Dirk@lemmy.ml 14 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I'm going to voluntarily read other people's AI slop.

[–] Tolookah@discuss.tchncs.de 11 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I'm gonna ask an AI to read it. I won't read that either, but all the same.

[–] RobotZap10000@feddit.nl 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

And I thought that the Dead Internet Theory was something that we were meant to strive against...

[–] cecilkorik@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Nah, we should strive for it. Imagine how much time I'd have for things like actually touching grass and socializing with real humans if I used an AI to handle all my terminally online activities. It can provide me a daily summary of all the shitposting it did and funny memes it saw and stupid trivia it learned while I do more meaningful stuff with my life.

It's a crazy dream, I know.

[–] Libb@piefed.social 7 points 2 weeks ago

You need to enable JavaScript to run this app.

That's not true. I just need to click the 'x' next to the tab. Why should I be bothered with waiting for some JS to be able to read text?

[–] monogram@feddit.nl 2 points 1 week ago

Beaker Browser was a decade too early

https://itsfoss.com/beaker-browser/

[–] amino@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 week ago

anyone who willingly reposts LLM slop is a scab in my eyes