Deezer is owned by a Russian oligarch close to Putin AFAIK. That would disqualify it from this list in my opinion
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Just learned about this from this other post if someone wants more details:
https://lemmy.world/post/33642043
Shame, more competition with Spotify would be a good thing.
Qobuz? High quality music. Family plans. Music purchases and audio file downloads. Gift cards!
Wtf, first time I heard this
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I switched from Dropbox to Nextcloud, saved a bunch of money and couldn't be happier. It's fantastic open source software. I don't understand why it's rarely listed in these guides.
Under my Nextcloud provider (Murena - not the cheapest, but they develop my phone OS so I figured I can support them) I also have OnlyOffice running on the cloud, which is great for co-authoring. And I also get e-mail there of course, though I mostly use e-mail from my web-hosting provider. I think Nextcloud also has video conferencing.
For search I use Qwant for now. I like that they're slowly developing their own index, yet they are less puritan than Mojeek so the results are a bit more reliable. Haven't heard of Karma before.
IONOS is also a great Nextcloud provider. Can highly recommend.
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Spotify: actually a Swedish company, but one of the worst companies out there. I hate Apple but at least they are paying artists better. Spotify actively supports scammers (with AI music and phone farms) and breaks the law by promoting artists connected to their stakeholders.
Deezer is owned by a Russian oligarch who funds the US republican party.
Don't know about the rest. But as far as I know there are no music streaming services with a moral compass.
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Avoid infomaniak. Company is anti anonimity, CEO said only criminals want it. As a result they are supporting the anti encryption laws coming to Switzerland.
Ew.
generally a good idea to get off of streaming and cloud services for things you can do locally
better security, better for the environment
all the worst companies want you streaming and using cloud services with them, just don't
How is e.g. streaming from a Jelyfin server better for the environment than e.g. from Netflix? Genuine question? Like, to use Jellyfin you still have to download an entire movie or episode from somewhere, and you're more likely to download things you don't end up watching. The only benefit is if you rewatch episodes or movies, but that's pretty rare and having enough hard-drive space for all of that is probably worse than just streaming it from a centralised location.
Plus Netflix, et al benefit from economies of scale that would probably make their streaming better than you just downloading.
Especially if they still put CDN caches in ISPsโฆ
That said I still self-host tvs and movies as much as possible
Weird how the chart just prioritizes other corporations and only shows true open-source or self-hosted solutions when there are no non-US options realistically. Hmm.
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Be careful, Tuta does not support IMAP/POP3, and you'll have to use their own client.
Wow, thanks for mentioning this, I'm seriously looking at moving away from gmail, and Tuta was my frontrunner. Sad that they aren't more upfront about this... I see Proton is kind of the same to some extent, but then they have a local bridge application which translates their protocol to IMAP/SMTP. Does anyone have experience with that?
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This is an ad made by infomaniak to promote their products. OP, are you affiliated with them?
Not sure recommending Swiss services is a particularly great idea from a privacy perspective right now.
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Spotify is Swedish? Why is it listed next to American companies?
"Yes, but...."
- Listed on the New York Stock Exchange via a holding company in Luxembourg that issues American depositary receipts. (Who knows what percentage of its 'shares'/ADRs are held by U.S. investors?)
- Paid Joe Rogan US$100 million for his alt-right podcast.
- Donated $150,000 to President Donald Trump's 2025 inauguration ceremony, as well as hosted an inauguration-related brunch.
yes but spotify is also europes only afaik unicorn and that needed some serious cash (many people forget but i was hearing how streaming doesnโt work and spotify hasnโt been profitable ever for like 15 years!! right up until last year and now itโs a big evil megacorp, how quickly the story can change) europe doesnโt have its unified market setup yet so america is where you have to go
this isnโt a failure of spotify, itโs a failure of the EU which tbf is something theyโve working on
https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/policies/capital-markets-union-explained/
it's controlled by americans.
The Lemmy icon is not very descriptive for those who do not know Lemmy.
That's what I was just thinking. People would have no idea where to start. Maybe searching for "mouse icon social network"?
Thanks mate! Posted on mastodon too
Drime is also an alternative to Google Drive
Disagree with Video Streaming, pirate it instead.
Thank you, strangely omnipresent being.
Mistral's Le Chat search is much better than what's listed here.
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