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Brett Kavanaugh says he doesn’t owe the public an explanation (www.vox.com)
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[–] WatDabney@lemmy.dbzer0.com 58 points 2 days ago (3 children)

This is all just a steaming pile of bullshit.

The current US Supreme Court hands Trump victories without explaining them because the explanation is quite simply that the conservative majority is wholly and completely corrupt and compromised. There is no legitimate justification for their decisions - neither existing law, precedent nor the Constitution could possibly be successfully invoked to justify any of them, and trying would just call unwanted attention to that fact, so they don't even bother trying.

[–] PhilipTheBucket@quokk.au 24 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

The justification is "What the fuck are you going to do about it?"

The normal process is born out of an awareness that people can bite back sometimes, and so "they" will take seriously trying to justify their actions. After a while, things get quiescent, and some of "they" start fooling themselves that it is impossible that the people not on top would ever bite back, and they stop bothering themselves with worrying about it.

For some reason (as with pretty much any other "what the fuck are you doing to do about it" situation), when people do do something about it, it's all of a sudden an outrageous betrayal, an offense against decency that no one could have seen coming.

[–] bradorsomething@ttrpg.network 7 points 2 days ago

A court that strongly supports the second amendment should not drive the populous to believe it is their only option.

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 23 points 2 days ago

Don't forget that rapists stick together too, he has to support his fellow rapist.

[–] DrFistington@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago

There will be no justice until all five of them are either in a maximum security prison, or executed in public

[–] PunkRockSportsFan@fanaticus.social 22 points 2 days ago (2 children)

He will have that position until he’s dead.

I didn’t make the rules. This is just a fact.

[–] FalseTautology@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 day ago

Sounds like we found the solution.

[–] Atom@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

30-ish years to go given he's rich and has the best healthcare in the world.

[–] PunkRockSportsFan@fanaticus.social 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

That’s pessimistic. Be optimistic.

[–] bradorsomething@ttrpg.network 4 points 2 days ago

I know, a ballistic rise like his has to stop suddenly eventually.

[–] Archangel1313@lemmy.ca 19 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I'm gonna go ahead and file this one under, "Reasons for the upcoming civil war".

[–] caseyweederman@lemmy.ca 8 points 2 days ago (3 children)

What makes you think there will be one, if there hasn't been one yet? Asking as a discouraged person.

[–] bradorsomething@ttrpg.network 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

We are always 5 days without food from a civil war.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 5 points 2 days ago

America is a long way from going hungry.

[–] Archangel1313@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 days ago

Everything has a breaking point.

[–] MudMan@fedia.io -4 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Wait, is the civil war the better outcome here? I mean, you granted Trump control of all branches of the government and elected him president twice. How do you guys envision that playing out?

Ugh. Every time a US politics post gets through my blocklist I'm baffled at the surreal narratives in there. Americans are so weird.

[–] caseyweederman@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 day ago

I am not American and I am also disappointed some new horror gets through my blocklist. It affects all of us though.
I don't think civil war is the better outcome, I just think the better outcomes seem to have been handily sidestepped.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yes, a civil war is one of good options in the Openly Fascist America timeline.

[–] MudMan@fedia.io 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

... so weird.

I genuinely believe history will struggle to explain American decay accurately, because who would ever stand in front of a classroom with a straight face to explain Americans were too lazy to not elect a fascist president twice into full control of the state's apparatus while actively fantasizing about a civil war to oppose him.

Like, you'd need to explain a century of main character syndrome fed by mass media and then degraded by social media, and even then it'd be a struggle. If anybody survives it's all going to be rationalizations about Citizens United and whatnot and history will do its best to forget how it all actually went down.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Or someone that's actually read some history will find the inevitable decline of liberalism very, very familiar, and agree that a fascist nation having a civil war instead of invading their neighbors is the best outcome once the old order collapsed under the weight of its hubris.

[–] MudMan@fedia.io 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Oh, man, care to point me to all that history I haven't heard of? Would love to read more about all the liberal regimes that collapsed into fascism democratically but were liberated by a civil war and everything was just fine afterwards. Bonus points if it's either pre- or post- cold war and there isn't a bloc system where they can act as a proxy for a remote superpower. Would have been so useful to know when our country descended into decades of fascism by the exact opposite method. We didn't know we were doing it wrong.

But hey, at least I can recognize that as accelerationist nonsense. The weird part is when normie Americans seem to have the same set of assumptions out of nowhere. That's where the real weirdness happens.

Anyway, I've had enough yankee for a day. I'm out. You guys enjoy your barbecue or civil war or however you decide to spend the weekend.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 1 points 1 day ago

Not the brightest bulb, huh? That's okay, I'm sure you're great at emotional intelligence or whatever else soothes the ego.

[–] 4am@lemmy.zip 8 points 2 days ago

They’re longer scared of us and we let this happen

[–] notsure@fedia.io 8 points 2 days ago

...how many men on the Supreme Court have had ties with Epstein...I'm just asking quetions...

[–] Geodad@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Lead is the ultimate equalizer.

[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Conservatives think legitimacy is an object you own.

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

checks the news I mean, that's what they appear to be doing successfully.

[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 days ago

Power is not the same thing. I need people to understand: conservatism does not believe power can be abused. When they have it, it's theirs. There is no right or wrong action, only right or wrong people. Things are right because right people do them. Their ingroup inherently possesses this unquestionable right to act - and in their minds, that's surely the only basis for your objections. We just want our guys acting, instead.

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 3 points 2 days ago

https://archive.is/Vf8UA/again?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.vox.com%2Fscotus%2F422035%2Fsupreme-court-brett-kavanaugh-shadow-docket