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India Will Buy Russian Oil Despite Trump’s Threats, Officials Say (www.nytimes.com)
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There is a growing sense in India that its leaders should not allow American policymaking to shape its choices on vital energy supplies.

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[–] ExtremeDullard@lemmy.sdf.org 21 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

There's a growing sense that Donald "TACO" Trump's threats are hollow.

Also, more and more people are realizing that there's no appeasing a dictator - especially a feckless one like this one. If you cave in, you'll get on the orange utan's wrong side eventually anyway and it will all have been for nothing. So why even bother...

And finally, let's not forget that Trump's tariff are illegal. when (if?) America gets its collective brain unscrambled and rein him in, and annul the illegal tariffs, India will have lost nothing if they just waited.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

There is a growing sense that India's political leaders are assholes.

[–] redsand@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 2 weeks ago

Seems about the same from here. More Modi doing Modi shit.

[–] genau@europe.pub 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

They just really really don't like the West and the voters don't either.

[–] shawn1122@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

They've gotten friendlier with the West in the past few decades. The distrust is for good reason given history of Western foreign interference (colonialism) and the US having a close relationship with Pakistan pre Bin Laden.

[–] genau@europe.pub -1 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

They are simply forced to get closer to the West due to China.

[–] shawn1122@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Thats one way to see it. India and the West see each other as strategic allies in a mutually beneficial arrangement given Indias proximity to China and Russia. I don't see it as one sided as you're suggesting, especially since historically India and Russia have been friendly to each other.

[–] SilverCode@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 week ago (2 children)

What about China is forcing them to get closer to the west?

I would have thought being the I in BRICS mean that India were closer to China (the C) than the West.

[–] genau@europe.pub 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Facepalm. This place sometimes feels just like Reddit.

[–] SilverCode@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I'm asking a genuine question that I don't know the answer to. Should I not be doing that on Lemmy?

[–] genau@europe.pub 0 points 1 week ago

BRICS is as real as pro wrestling, bitcoin, Serbian democracy, ... You get the picture.

India and China clash often and hate each other's guts.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020%E2%80%932021_China%E2%80%93India_skirmishes

What they have in common is that they want to be superpowers but are too dependent on the West. So they are trying to lessen the Western dominance in world trade and so on.

[–] shawn1122@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

The implication is that China is a serious military threat so being allied with the West (not sure if the West as a whole is that strong militarily, moreso the US [perhaps the UK and France] specifically) is necessary for India.

China and India were friends long ago, throughout much of human history actually. The attitude between both regions was one of "you got your good thing going, and we got our good thing going". It's how both civilizations coexisted for thousands of years.

Things changed in the colonial era and after. Britain needed to bankroll their industrial revolution to, in their view, push humanity forward but really it was mostly for themselves. They turned India into a resource mining machine and pumped China full of opium (often grown in India) mostly so that they could... purchase tea?

Shortly after the end of WW2 and both nations were free from the shackles of Anglo tyranny, China was not happy with the borders the British had drawn and wanted to take control of a region, given to India, that connected Tibet and Xinjiang called Aksai Chin. This led to the Sino Indian war in 1962 which China won with a suprise attack, reasserting its presence as a major regional player and putting India in a position to more closely ally with the Soviet Union for military purposes.

Since then, India and China have not really been close, even if they are both BRICS nations. China also went on to help Pakistan procure nuclear weapons so its going to be quite some time before this relationship is mended.

[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 week ago

Oh, that sense was already fully grown, and for reasons much more severe than this.

Continuing to trade with a country that is invading other countries is, ultimately, standard behavior in international politics; there's very few countries that aren't in a glass house in this regard.

[–] Bell@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

There's a growing sense in India that Russia invading it's neighbors is far enough away for them to ignore it completely.