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The Texas Democrats, however, face the risk of a $500-a-day fine and even possible arrest for fleeing the state.
Sounds like a GoFundMe that I'd kick in to.
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Really though, Pritzker could pay it out of his pocket change. $500 x 30 members = $15,000/day or $450,000 per month. That would be $5,400,000 if they stayed in Illinois for a full year. Pritzker is worth $3.7 billion. He could pay it without blinking.
$5.4 million is about 0.15% of $3.7 billion. That's like the average American (median net worth $192,700 based on a quick search) paying $281.24. Hell, I'm below that and I would gladly pay $241.24 to keep TX from fucking the rest of the country.
According to the article they already had funds set aside to pay the fine. They fundraised specifically for it.
The republicans are trying to steal 5 US House of Reps seats, this is awesome.
What's worse is that they're basically challenging California to do the same to make up for the loss.
Once that happens, it's kind of the beginning of the end of the Union. When that precedent is set, states will start ignoring the actual will and representation of the people and just start drawing whatever lines they need to pack the seats. Every state for themselves. With the current judicial branch compromised and the executive branch an utter joke, this will be the last branch of government to suffer irreparable wounding.
What's even worse is we don't have a choice. If we are to have states that don't bow down to fascism and white nationalism, we will HAVE to do this to survive. States will start forming alliances to make their redistricting more effective, and then those alliances will start turning into factions, which will eventually become nation-states.
Just remember where you were when the midterm results are announced, it will be marked in history books someday.
Haha we won't have books in the future. It will all be Grok.
States have been paying attention to the will and representation of their people?
We do have a lot of local elections with community support across much of the country. We mostly only see the stories where this process has been trampled or ignored, but we often lose sight of just how massive the country is and get absolutely no insight into how local jurisdictions work or don't work. There are vast stretches of the US where the people are getting on just fine (by societal standards) and vote for their local school boards, their mayors and sheriffs, etc.
The system is strained and in many places completely collapsed, particularly when it comes to federal representation, but we have to understand that there's still value in our country. If we all worked harder to preserve that and reclaimed our flag much earlier we might have had a stronger fighting chance.
Tbf at this point Im ready for the end of the Union. Fuck a shit ton of people here.
It won't make things better in our lifetimes. When the federal and state relationships break down, so do all the things that make us comfortable.
Once that happens, it's kind of the beginning of the end of the Union.
Eh, not really. States could all choose to give 100% of their representatives to their majority party. That's basically how the Electoral College works, and while it's not optimal it also isn't the end of the Union.
I'm not saying it's going to be an overnight Civil War, it's the beginning of a long, irreversible erosion process that could get very chaotic and economically destabilizing for the entire continent for the next century. Say goodbye to the American wealth we've all gotten so used to and start looking at how developing nations are structured.
The only way I see this turning out even remotely good in our lifetimes is if there is a sudden and near-term disaster that results in a majority of America suddenly turning to some new, charismatic figure who actually wants to do good things and implements some kind of "New Deal 2.0" and we see reconstruction in our lifetimes under a revised and ratified constitution.
So yeah, keep an eye on your bingo card that says "AI will kill most of us and then maybe save us." Or aliens. Or nuclear war.
The fact that Illinois is helping them makes it less likely the Texas rangers will kidnap them and render them back to Texas.
Pretty sure the Texas rangers have zero jurisdiction outside of Texas.
Pretty sure if they tried to do anything outside of Texas the local PD would probably be justified in arresting them or even just shooting them.
Justified? Sure. I suspect "professional courtesy" would prevent any such thing, though.
Some cops especially sheriffs can be very very territorial, plenty of them are bastards to those outside their region but are chill for those from within the region. A jumped up Texas ranger would be well within the "They aren't gonna find your bodies" area.
Why do you think the local PD would be on the side of democracy?
Don't think they would be, but they are far more likely to shoot some jumped up out of stater.
History says they'll side with power/authoritarian. Don't put any faith in westernized law enforcement. Their job is to keep the workers in line. Not to question orders.
If there is one thing that can get deputies and local PD twitchy its tribalism especially if that triablism is being agitated by someone else's tribe. Fact of the matter is that Texas Rangers don't have power or authority outside of Texas, and frankly speaking cops are just as aware of their paycheque as everyone else. If they work with the Texas rangers without higher approval from within the state they risk getting their pay cut for basically nothing.
They didn't care last time. And the time before that... As long as they are going after marginalized people the local authorities will at best be passive bystanders, at worst they'll actively help the authoritarian.
You are seeing them as a monolith they aren't, they may be broadly aligned but if some Texas ranger started stomping around SoCal he is going to have the sheriff and whatever PD up his ass. I am under no illusion about the general corruption of such groups but they are as I said very territorial and will fight over jurisdiction. Most cops are more than willing to sit on their assess and do nothing, there's a reason they all rush to check out some teenagers drawing knives and it's because they have nothing better to do.
They gain NOTHING from helping out outside authorities unless the state is enabling them, if a protest breaks our yes they'll be jackboots. But if alls quiet on the western front then they'll sit on their assess and do nothing or watch porn in their squad car because that's what my local cops do for some reason.
Also when I say state I don't mean the feds, I'm pretty sure my local deputies would jump at the idea of shooting a fed.
If they weren't prepared to be the boot for the oligarchy, they wouldn't work in law enforcement in the first place.
The flaw in your assumption is that the oligarchy is actually united. Depending on the region you may very well see an area dominated by a handful of old money families who will call in favors with the good old boys and have them cause trouble. Factionalism is rife amongst the rich the only reason it seems like they have any amount of unity is because a handful of ultra oligarchs such as Thiel, Musk, and Zuckerberg dominate the media.
The police often know their place in such order or at least the ones at the top do. This is why you can get sheriffs departments break rank with town and city PD on occasion because they answer to different powers be they legitimate IE the state or county cheque makers of illegitimate such as the broadly rich in LA vs the old families of a rural Eastern Californian county.
Isn't jurisdiction something that departments fight over fairly regularly?
Yep sometimes they'll even draw guns on each other.
Would Texas Republicans care about what's legal at this point?
If they came to massachusetts any texas ranger would be shipped back to texas in multiple ups boxes
Seems like this is starting to shed more light on the GOP's plans.
We're headed for civil war. But way dumber than the last one.
Idk, I think it's pretty dumb to start a war because you want to keep owning people.
Not if you are lazy.
First rule of hide and seek.
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