"If you're not willing to sacrifice your mental and physical health for me, get out of my sight."
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To be perfectly honest, if a CEO is truly working 80+ hours a week, you almost have to wonder where they would find the time to write walls of text to rejected candidates and to play around on social media.
Granted, I suspect a lot of higher level folks are like the ones I know, they're very generous with what they qualify as "working hours" for themselves. For instance, "I work 12 hour days" translates to I leave for work at 7 a.m. and I don't get home until 7 p.m." so basically they consider their travel to/from the office, the 2 hour lunch break + gym time, picking up kids after school, etc to be part of their working hours. Or if they're away from home for 3 days at a conference, that's 70+ hours of work right there.
And the thing is, I don't completely disagree with any of that, it's just that they tend to take the opposite stance when it comes to people actually doing the work. If you're not sitting in front of your computer or on the phone making calls, then you're not working. Your commute to/from work doesn't count. Your lunch break doesn't count. Your travel time to and from the conference doesn't count for your 38.5 hour minimum billable time for that week.
They count fucking around on LinkedIn as part of their work week, I reckon
They probably count lecturing their kids about their attitude as work as well
Oh look, a self-reporting issue
Sign up with this guy. Work nights and weekends for three years. Then he cashes out, you get 30.000 shares of worthless "stocks" and a severance notice becauser he decided to pivot . Repeat. Repeat. Repeat.
Yep, sounds like fun. :|
The grammar alone is enough of a red flag.
I work 80+ hr weeks and it never feels like work because I love it.
In other words, this guy works not for the money, but because it's what he'd do even if he wasn't paid. Sounds like he could afford higher taxes.
RUN!!!! To the closest golf course, that new CEO is probably there and just walk up to them and say “fuck you and “your company” I am out!” Then yell to the people around them to not give money to him… “he’s a grifter who is exploiting workers so he can play golf with you!”
"We will exploit you from the very beginning."
Props to that CEO for being open! I'm sure all the other people pressured to work long hours there are compensated as highly as him and there's no wage theft complaints with the Department Of Labor, right...?
Put down your pitchforks, people. Self-confessed fabrication: https://www.linkedin.com/posts/bgoldstein3_founder-career-activity-7354574299103436800-HpOn
But you can bring them back out for being such a tool, he still deserves it.
Oh, thank god. Although I've known many managers who openly say that they throw out the application of anyone who mentions "work/life balance", so unfortunately it's a real sentiment.
I just want a stable job working for a co-op or a local government where I make good money, go home at a reasonable hour and have nice benefits. Startup culture sounds like hell. And i wouldn't begrudge them for it, but they keep winding up buying governments and convincing everyone to function like that
advice to you; lie
Everybody lies in job interviews, and the ones who say they don't lie are lying to us. Both candidates and interviewers lie. It's all a great lie, and indirectly, the main objective is to find the greatest liar, even if no one will admit that, because that's what the interviews actually test for.
No wonder companies are like they are, with deceiving behavior at all levels, and a lot of times, incredibly incompetent, despite their position in the market. And also, no wonder some people, like me, never manage to get a corporate job, no matter how much they try.
Seems like the worst of hustle culture to be honest.
I've done this shit for decades. Decades.
I'm exhausted. It's tiring. I've been with startup after startup after startup.
I've vested equity after equity into more equity.
I've made $0 off that equity over nearly 3 decades.
My health suffers because of the stress and strain of the jobs I've been forced to put my body through over the years and there's no coming back from that.
My mental health is at a constant tipping point during my every day of work and I wonder just how much longer I can even manage to put in "regular" hours before I just curl up into a ball and wait for the sweet embrace of death.
I've lost decades of my life, thrown away in offices, cubicles, and shitty pizza party meetings to celebrate meaningless achievements that are wiped out in the next quarterly planning session.
Brett Goldstein can go fuck himself with a sandpaper infused dildo.
Sounds like your experience would make a good book, full of cautionary tales 😁
As someone who built up a business working 80+ hrs; fuck that guy. 5 years ago I was paying part timers$26/hr and my only full time (salary) - told him 30 hrs/week max. It was my risk/investment, not theirs. I didn't want them to get burned out. Happier employees perform better.
"Startup" is just short hand for "self-absorbed shitbird(s) playing fast and loose with other people's money".
Ah, the future value of equity ... sacrifice your life on spec that the venture will succeed when most don't and that your boss won't find a way to fuck you over of it does. Bearing in mind that the more money is on the table, the more likely it is that your boss will try to screw you out of it.
If you want to go to Vegas, go to Vegas. Do an 80-hour stint, see if you get rich, and if you fail then go home. Don't spend years at some shitty company run by an asshole.
If you own the business, work as much as you want. If you have employees then be fucking reasonable
This man is a cancer on society
I love the bit about how people who work for early startups have to work long hours for little pay so that the owner of the company can walk away with a highly successful business that pays them handsomely while you get maybe a decent wage if you're lucky, or if the company doesn't fire you when they realize they can hire three people for half the pay that you were getting by the time the company is actually making a profit.
If you're not willing to work yourself to death.... We don't want you
Guy makes CRM.
Yeah, if someone rejects me for not wanting to work 80 hours a week, I'd be glad. I worked a place where I was working between 50 and 60 hours a week all the time, and it affected my health. I will never do that crap again.
I am honestly surprised to hear people say stuff like this after the pandemic. My perspective post pandemic really changed. The things that are important to me isnt how much I work. Nobody's gonna give a shit that you put in 12 hour days at work when you're on your death bed. Spend time with the people you care about, and work to live. Not the other way around.
This guy (assuming this is real) is the chump, not the person who interviewed.
Our western society is built on this bullshit. It is the cancer that is killing us all.
A while back I did consulting for a startup where the CEO would hold all-hands meetings at this home -- on Saturday mornings. Attendance wasn't mandatory, but everyone knew it would look bad if they didn't show up. The 'executive team' also met on Sundays, and made sure on Monday standups mentioning that they had met.
They started messaging me about those meetings, and also texting me at all hours about problems they expected looked at right then or the next day. My work was pretty specialized but they kept trying to drag me into other problems they were having.
I very politely told them to go pound sand. Mentioned work-life balance. That I wasn't an employee and would only be available during the contracted hours. Also, that I had other projects and it wouldn't be fair to drop everything just for them. To their credit, they backed off (not that they had a choice).
A few years later, long after I was gone, they completely imploded. Was told things got worse and more frantic towards the end.
Kept seeing the same pattern in subsequent companies. It all stems from bad management.
The good thing about startups, even the ceo can do long hours without any rest without a team!