What if I want the death of all humans... /s
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I suppose you also want to make your own theme park with blackjack and hookers.
They are all using public transport. Already a win.
As an anarchist who is opposed to accelerationionism, it's frustrating how many people see it as an ideology that wants the state to immediately collapse.
I've had multiple arguments with liberals who say I'm not a real anarchist because I want pragmatic short-term progressive solutions like Medicare for all.
So yeah, I'm not wanting to condemn people to death for my ideology. Got me! (Not you, PugJesus)
History teaches us that collapse and revolution rarely goes well for anyone.
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I always like to (admittedly, pedantically) point out that if anarchism is defined purely etymologically, all it means is "without hierarchy".
My personal interpretation is that it doesn't necessarily imply a lack of a state, democratic or representative government, or jurisprudence of established law; it only implies a lack of arbitrary and tiered authority or power.
I like to point people to Desert by Anonymous. It talks about how the plan should really be waiting for the State to recede as collapse progresses, and finding the spaces left behind where theres room for mutual aid based organization.
I like that. It turns your attention to what's in front of you, rather than waiting for the mythical Revolution we'll likely never see.
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Anarchists are incredibly caricatured in the popular mind. Curious though, how would you describe your pragmatic short-term progressive anarchism? Reformist Anarchism? Incrementalist?
I don't know of a name for it, but it's fairly common in anarchistic thought as far as I can tell.
Mutual aid is really the bedrock principle in anarchism, so setting up structures for it where we can is important even if they are imperfect.
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Some ideologies want to be the boot pressing down on other’s necks and set the world on fire.
The rest aren’t so bad compared to that.
I like this comment.
As much as I crap on certain leftists, they still have the ideology "I wish people were slightly more kinder" and I would love their ideology to be accepted common sense rather than current one.
I would be just as happier if they were considered the new "centrists." And current right-wing considered far, far extreme.
would love their ideology to be accepted common sense rather than current one
The crazy thing is that the current economic system we utilize isn't considered nonsensical.
I guess an economic system that requires infinite growth made a bit more sense during the age of discovery, when people were actively finding new continents to exploit. One would think that now we've definitively concluded we inhabit a closed system with a finite amount of natural resources, maybe just maybe we could evolve our economic system to reflect that?
Eh, sorry it became kinda a WoT.
I suggest a tweak to the argument that the economic system requiring infinite growth made sense - I don’t think it was a deliberate choice. What probably happened was that someone noticed they could make money off that growth via stocks and slowly we tied more and more of the economy to the stock market. It used to be that fortunes could be lost in stock trading, think the 1920s in the US or even the Dutch Tulip Mania in the 1600s. It was for rich people or people taking a risk. Quarterly reports weren’t a thing. It wasn’t a place for the common person at all. The investment done earlier was wildly different than today.
Now, a huge amount of wealth and financial security of the masses are tied to stocks. Retirement plans in particular. It became profitable to offload defined benefit programs in favor of 401ks. It became profitable to open up brokerages for everyman. CEO’s job security is often tied to quarterly earnings. Personal fortunes are made in stocks with the only prerequisite being lucky enough to have money/given stock options to invest and making the right choice (which is why nobody earns enough salary/works hard enough to be a billionaire or hundred-milllionaire, it’s all stock). The line must continue upwards. Almost nobody makes money by opening new markets or making new discoveries anymore, it’s not 1950. Tesla would be a rare example of a new market. But nowadays company advancement is too incremental to be profitable for most. So they make the line go up by enshittification and buying up the competition.
With so much riding on stocks they’ve become too big to fail. We’ve gone past stock purchases being used to prop up a company’s ability to advance as a gamble on the part of the investor and now we demand infinite growth to prop up a huge chunk of the economy.
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Let me dream god damn it, its the closest I have for a hope for a better future
"We can still improv...."
No....
No shut up
If post-apocalyptic media has taught us anything, it's that the same systems will rise again, only now they are even more warped and fucked up than they were before the apocalypse.
Ah the worst political people are those living in fantasy land
My favorite part is this is exactly what the dems are doing with Trump, their startegy since the beginning was not to stop Trump and just wait for him to ruin the country enough that people vote for them again. They were saying as much earlier in the year too. Hilarious to see how they called all their detractors accelerationist before deciding to join in.
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I don’t know what’s coming after this; better, worse, another version of the same.
I’m just tired of waiting for the other shoe to drop.
My money is on worse. The billionaire class has the means to take full control if society were to collapse and form it in their interest.
Even if a specific currency became meaningless, they'd still have wealth to transfer to whatever currency isn't.
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They all have the same ideology, forged and molded by the algorithm of social media.
It’s not about “my” ideology; that’s focusing on the wrong part. The problem is that it’s a ridiculous analysis. Most of the people who say this stuff nominally support a free society of some sort, basically a version socialism, but it’s not personal.
MAGA are not socialists but many of them wanted to see the system crash and burn.
Meaning stand up for your belief, and to the victor, the spoils. It's ironic. 🤷♂️
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