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This post got brigaded; you know, that thing that the very same people accuse us of π½
https://sh.itjust.works/post/44029753
Some of them even broke out their alt accounts, which they use exclusively for vote-spamming. One of them has a two year old account thatβs never made a single post or comment. We ban those.
Anti-communist social chauvanists arguing with each other over what socialism and communism are when none of them have read theory will never stop being funny. Plus there's one person asking for an upvoted zionist opinion, and when another user linked a zionist comment from a MWoG mod, they got banned for doing so.
Genuinely not sure what the world looks like when viewed through their myopic viewpoint.
CW gross ideation about /u/davel:
spoiler
these people are seriously unwell, absolute nazi bar.
I came across one of them saying I was a degenerate roach in another thread there:
What's interesting is that davel doesn't put pronouns in their name, so that comment is confusing.
for whatever reason they do show up in the modlog in the op
I had to do a double take reading that comment too, because while davel is an admin, the post did say "moderator"
Huh, interesting, I never saw that. Maybe an issue with federation?
The stormfront / kiwifarms strategy seems to be to set up shop anywhere that won't ban them, and lets them doxx whoever they want. And there are A LOT of lemmy servers that won't take action and ban them.
The "Every Accusation a Confession" rule of thumb strikes again.
Thank you for staying on top of this kind of shit and exposing them when necessary.
wow this one spawned a hell of a struggle session
wait until you see that there there's a ~200 comment thread on the snark comm discussing this thread in addition!
ahahahha where?
cw: nazi bar
I can't imagine a more useless waste of time than being on a community dedicated to anti-communism. What's funny is when the literal fascists join in and the anti-communist liberals are always surprised that their nazi-bar is welcoming of nazis.
The australian running that comm has such a predictable worldview
'left right terminology doesn't have a place' - sounds like they prefer the third position.
They're a zionist, but in the mealymouthed 'two state solution' vein, probably due to their shared experience as a colonial occupier.
Checks out. PJ has similar views, the MWoG regulars seem to all roughly orbit around the social chauvanist viewpoint. Essentially, SocDems that really like NATO and the IMF, they just want more of the spoils of imperialism while maintaining it.
as always, the free speech thread is full of banned people
A little follow up: Why don't you live in China or Russia if life is so bleak in the western countries?
That question is based on a bad frame of analysis. Critical support for Russia is for the role they play in combatting the imperialism of the global north, and the strong ally they are to socialist countries. It isn't at all because people think Russia is some paradise. Further, I can totally say that Cuba has a better economic model than the US despite quality of life being lower in some areas because of the circumstances Cuba is in, it's under massive sanctions and doesn't have the privledged position of world empire like the US does to give it vast quantities of wealth.
Put another way, your question makes about as much sense as "oh, you're pro-Palestine? Why don't you mkve there?" This is a classic fallacy targeting anti-imperialist and pro-socialist westerners, quality of life in the west is artificially inflated due to imperialism, not because the western economic model is intrinsically superior.
As for the PRC, I'd totally live there for a few years! I don't speak mandarin, nor do I want to uproot myself to move there long-term when my family lives relatively close to me where I am, but for a short while it would certainly be fun! China is only going to continue improving over time while the west is going to continue to stagnate and die, so hopefully we see socialism in the west in our lifetimes.
this is what you sound like
Lmao, we replied at almost the same time in completely different ways, that's amazing
lmao this sort of thing is probably why people accuse us of all posting on the same schedule, clearly we just clocked in at the Kremlin
Lmao fair, I just woke up an hour ago and checked for notifications, then saw this exquisite hot take and had to comment
I actually did the exact same thing, the bait posts are just too fun
Diva π€ Cowbee
Combatting liberalism while sleep groggy
Is it your first time here?
Tribalism is a cancer. We dont need it anymore.
United we stand, divided we fall.
Obviously the states have problems, and the EU to a lesser degree, but they at least have some human rights.
The US has big problems with human rights, that start with zionist first rule, and needing misery and oligarchist pillaging to make Americans have bigger problems than warmongering, Israel supremacy, directly corrupt and rigged elections, or "well first they are comming for the others", and I still have bigger problems.
The NATO colonies are even far worse. Democracy means rule by those allowed by CIA, with population programmed with CIA values. The CIA programming, and total capture of politicians, means normalizing the real enemy to the NATO colonies as a permanent friend and master. The only valid elections in entire world are those approved by CIA values. Never any need for evidence of invalidity, you just take State Department/Elon Musk view that "we will coup whoever we want to coup".
Our countries dress pure corruption as freedom. While freedom seems awesome, the freedom to corrupt, lie, propagandize you into oppression demonic evil diminishment of nations labelled less free, and you internalize those wars as a supremacist right instead of the theft of your prosperity simply makes the corruption of democracy too powerful relative to your critical thinking, attention and distractions from your oppression.
Without CIA influence over a country, it can hope to govern itself in national interest instead of CIA allied oligarchy. Russia and China are mostly successful at this. Freedom is awesome, but the powerful's freedom to corrupt will always result in greater overall corruption, oppression, and oligarchism Normalizing CIA involvement in your media and democracy means your nation is doomed, and lemmy defending demonic evil corruption is the direct result of a lifetime of propaganda.
Liquid democracy is easily available with current technology. Already substantially implemented in crypto currency tokens. It's the only real democracy. That people each have an equal share in their country's government, and its revenue/left over revenue, is distributed as a dividend, means making sure there is a lot of left over revenue instead of corruption.
