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What's up with this straight up pro-china and pro-russia stuff on Lemmy lately?

It's not even praising the people of China and Russia, but rather their gov directly.

Obviously the states have problems, and the EU to a lesser degree, but they at least have some human rights.

Is this some kind of organized disinformation campaign?

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[–] teagrrl@lemmy.ml 31 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (20 children)

China has human rights. E.G. Trans people get gender affirming healthcare, jobs, food, and housing. Something that the U.S. does not guarantee and is actively trying to ban transgender affirming care. One of the most famous people in China is Jin Xing a trans woman. The Chinese government does not restrict transgender people in the same way that the UK and the U.S. does. Largely it is social stigma that remains in China, which will and has been changing over time.

[–] procapra@lemmy.ml 10 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I agree that treatment seems a non issue, but from what I've seen the social stigma is incredibly significant. I forget their handle, but there was a trans man on rednote that had alot to say about the stigma in his part of china. That isn't to say the US is any better though.

[–] teagrrl@lemmy.ml 13 points 3 days ago (1 children)

That's Theo and his rednote videos are very insightful. There probably could be better education surrounding trans people done in China to help reduce the stigma, but that is the case in nearly every country. I think as people continue to be open and vulnerable about what it means to be transgender and people become more exposed to transgender people that social stigma will change. It is part of why I live openly and honestly as a trans person. Every generation of queer folk has paved the way for the rest of us.

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[–] peppers_ghost@lemmy.ml 13 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Tbh in China it varies a LOT by region how you'll be treated socially. There's some places where trans people have dedicated medical centers and others where they'll be persecuted. It's a failure of uneven development they're trying to fix. The govt there recently banned the sale of hormones online which really complicated things for trans women.

[–] teagrrl@lemmy.ml 10 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

The govt there recently banned the sale of hormones online which really complicated things for trans women.

That's if you don't have a prescription, while the process is some what tedious to get a prescription people were giving themselves doses far above what is recommended so it was out of concern for safety not a malicious intent unlike what we see in Western countries. I would like to see China do informed consent for HRT and lift some of the barriers though.

As far as the rural v urban divide, it is a tale as old as time, not something unique to China, but at least they are doing something about it.

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[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 51 points 3 days ago

Lol, OP is mad they got their post removed for claiming that Covid was a Chinese bioweapon.

[–] frightful_hobgoblin@lemmy.ml 28 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (6 children)

It’s not even praising the people of China and Russia, but rather their gov directly. Obviously the states have problems, and the EU to a lesser degree, but they at least have some human rights.

Not sure I agree with your claim that the West have better human rights. They do more anti-privacy stuff than the rest of the world combined, and are starving 2 million people. The USA deprives the most people of their freedom: 1.9 million I'm seeing, and 99% of them never had a trial.

Liberals hear criticism of western countries and respond, "They're not perfect. They have their little foibles." Liberals hear criticism of other countries and think they're pure evil.

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[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 24 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (14 children)

i think a lot of us are more anti-us than pro-china, which says something in and of itself.

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