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[–] underscores@lemmy.zip 10 points 3 days ago
[–] NastyNative@mander.xyz 5 points 3 days ago (2 children)

In nearly every system, individuals often find ways to exploit or manipulate the rules; it's part of human nature. When money is involved, this becomes even more dangerous, as it can allow someone to amass significant wealth in a small factor bill instead of the goods. This dynamic is so deeply embedded in modern society that reversing it seems impossible. Those who possess great wealth have the choice to either share it or hoard it. In many ways, when it comes to money, we seem to have regressed rather than progressed. The Indigenous peoples of the Americas once lived with a freedom and simplicity that many today could never imagine. This is why some argue that the ideal future citizen should own nothing and live off a minimal amount of land, embracing a simpler, more sustainable way of life.

[–] AnarchistArtificer@slrpnk.net 3 points 3 days ago

Exploitative individuals may well be a part of human nature, but cooperating with other humans to build communities that are greater than the sum of its parts is human nature too.

I don't believe that it's possible to necessarily reverse the toxic dynamic you describe, but I do believe that it is possible to move forward in a way that is more productive for wellness. Maybe I just believe this because it's what I need to believe in order to not go mad and top myself, but I'll take the free hope.

[–] clonedhuman@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

And when the primates with the money and the power exploit their 'lessers' so much that we start dying from it, it's perfectly natural and normal to rise up and rip them into little bits and leave their dismembered corpses out for the buzzards.

[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago

The Americans could learn from the French in regard to labor laws what happens when the government and corporations try to fuck them over. General Strike.

[–] janja@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (26 children)

Does anyone really believe the ‘we don’t even need to be working really at all’ part?

[–] Zombie@feddit.uk 12 points 3 days ago (2 children)

The Conquest of Bread by Peter Kropotkin was written in 1892 and argued then that we labour far more than is actually necessary. Lots of work is work for the sake of work, not necessarily for the necessity of life and society.

Think now on how much technological improvement there has been since then. The industrial revolution continued, flight, computers and automation, even the factory line system didn't take off until Ford in the early 1900s.

We have so many machines, computers, and processes that never existed a hundred years ago.

The point isn't that we have no need for work, the point is we don't need to work anywhere near as much as we do.

A modern book that argues something similar is Bullshit Jobs by David Graeber.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Conquest_of_Bread

https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/petr-kropotkin-the-conquest-of-bread

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bullshit_Jobs

https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/david-graeber-bullshit-jobs

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[–] Ethalis@jlai.lu 11 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, not working shouldn't even be a goal here. What we should strive for is to build a society where work is empowering for the workers rather than alienating, where it benefits the whole society rather than just creating value for a select few

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[–] Bgugi@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I think a lot of you people need to learn about hyperbole and missing the forest for the trees.

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[–] alsaaas@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Buddy just discovered communism

[–] Forester@pawb.social 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Upcycling is not communism.

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[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

Omg i saw this on Tumblr today and almost posted it XD

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