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[–] JHRD1880@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

'Vote blue no matter who' lasted long, I see.

[–] Fades@lemmy.world 17 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (2 children)

OH boy I sure do love purity checks. It's worked out so great for us in the past.

Why is this shit always all or nothing, goddamn. It works for maga because they have no nuance and it's all groupthink, but the rest of the nation is far more complex and won't just go for a hard left progressive in the same way. It needs to happen but it won't happen in a single election.

I am in no way endorsing newsome, but at least he's doing LITERALLY ANYTHING.

[–] UnderFreyja@lemmy.ca 4 points 13 hours ago

Exactly, people tried that shit with Carney up here and we all knew we were not getting a progressive PM but we sure as hell didn't get a right wing mini trump.

Could we have gotten better? For sure but desperate times man, desperate times...

[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 3 points 14 hours ago

Yeah I might not vote for him in the primary but its not a deal breaker.

[–] nexguy@lemmy.world 5 points 12 hours ago

There is a hot car with an infant inside and parent no where in site. Should you break the window and save the child? Breaking a window is bad so we shouldn't do it. They just shouldn't have locked the baby in the car. I'm not going to vote for vandalism.

-protest non-voter

[–] dantheclamman@lemmy.world 4 points 12 hours ago

As a Californian, Newsom is just the other side of Trump's coin. He has no principles. He puts his finger in the wind before he does anything. I'd vote for literally any other Democrat first. It's not about him being a Progressive or not. It's that he'd pursue literally any position if it was advantageous to him, including hard right ones.

[–] chunes@lemmy.world 18 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

...you expect the dems to run a progressive?

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 10 points 17 hours ago

I fully expect to see a repeat of 2020. The party establishment will be split between Elderly Nepo-Ghoul With Fanatical Partisan Following and Young Pretty Boy Who Says Progressive Things To A Room Of Millennial Age Investment Bankers.

On the edge of the debate, you'll see a few genuinely progressive leftist voices saying things like "We should be against genocide" and "Homelessness is easily solveable if we put forward even the least amount of political capital" and "Granting DC statehood is the most obviously smart and moral Act any future Congress can pass". Maybe even a few "Medicare 4 All is still a good idea" die-hards shouting from the extremely cheap seats.

And then one (or both) of the insider candidates will pick up a few of the more popular slogans as their own. This, while denouncing any of the fringe voices as Anti-White Racists, Politically Toxic Far-Left Anti-Capitalists, Eco-Terrorists, and Fat Ugly Unfuckable Losers.

Come primary day, said fringe leftists will do shockingly well in some of the early states. At this point, the centrist candidates will panic, drop the kabuki of intra-party squabbling, align behind whomever the current Party Elder tells them to select, scream that a vote for Fringe Candidate is a vote for Fascism, blanket the airwaves with a deafening smear campaign, disavow every nice thing they said up until this point, and maybe squeak in to the convention by a few points on a technicality about who gets to be Superdelegates.

The Convention will be a coronation of a rotten corporate homunculus. Any leftist disgusted by the process or the annointed candidate will be denounced as a Far-Right Foreign Plant designed to undermine the fundamental principles of democracy itself. Said rotten homunculus will pick a Token Minority/Progressive as their running mate, then immediately dump that person to the sidelines and campaign exclusively with the reanimated corpse of Rush Limbaugh.

Trump wins by a ten point margin in 2028. Leftists are blamed for the loss. Democrats vow to purge their party of anything resembling progressive values or human decency even harder. By 2032, they're running a Bitcoin Billionaire in an uncontested primary, because it's unreasonable to trust an election process that's been infiltrated by Hamas.

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 2 points 17 hours ago

This is exactly why they'll run him.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 7 points 15 hours ago

Don't care. Way better than fascism and besides, the tweets are hilarious.

[–] Fredthefishlord@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 17 hours ago (4 children)

Reddit just called me a Republican plant for not liking newsom. Before the primaries have even started. Pisses me off

[–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

Remember when we were told that we could criticize Dems during non-election years?

Or primaries were the time to have debate, but I guess that too has gone out the window with the DNC tiping the scales since 2016.

Exactly. Like, I'm not going to be happy if he gets nominated, but I will vote for him. But before primaries is the time to debate and find the best candidates

[–] MNByChoice@midwest.social 1 points 12 hours ago

Nope. But I don't list to those trying to control me.

I vote, and not for fascists.

[–] QuoVadisHomines@sh.itjust.works 1 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Clearly you are in favor of an oceanic based monarchy.

[–] MNByChoice@midwest.social 1 points 12 hours ago
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[–] wowwoweowza@lemmy.world 4 points 18 hours ago (5 children)

Listen, I know we are the tiny bubble, so posting this here has no negative effect — but 2028 has to be about people on the right and left joining together to repudiate fascism and totalitarianism. Who cares about the past under these circumstances. I hope that Newsom’s lack of prog cred gives him cred with the pugs who hate Trump. Or are lukewarm on Trump.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 9 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

2028 has to be about people on the right and left joining together to repudiate fascism and totalitarianism

[–] Fades@lemmy.world 4 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

not pictured are all the ignorant morons that believe billionaire news media that sanewashes the people those pictured in hoods follow.

reality has nuance, removing it hurts us all.

[–] return2ozma@lemmy.world 12 points 18 hours ago

The Harris thinking Cheney would sway voters pipeline again? Oof.

[–] iridebikes@lemmy.world 4 points 16 hours ago

The right does not think this is fascism. So, there goes that fantasy.

There has to be economic pain so bad that they can't refute it anymore. That's our only hope.

That or Trump dying before the end of his term.

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[–] anarchiddy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 day ago

Leadership will pick the least objectionable neolib to promote the shit out of, and they'll end up gambling - again - that voters care more about sticking it to Trump than achieving real relief from our capitalistic hellscape.

Newsom's only redeeming qualoty is his ability to get under Trump's skin. Literally everything else is focus-group tested neo-liberalism.

Early to be predicting anything but dems are fucked if Newsom is gonna be their guy.

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 5 points 21 hours ago (3 children)

Today Texas Democrats will be present for the session that will gerrymander their state, they could have stayed out of the state to keep it from passing, but the decided to return and allow it to pass.

The gerrymandering that Gavin says will happen in California is going to be voted on in November, it will probably not happen.

This chain of events will result in Republicans gaining extra control in the house/senate, because of the choices and lies made by Democrats.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 3 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

The gerrymandering that Gavin says will happen in California is going to be voted on in November, it will probably not happen.

I will say this. They aren't waiting until November 2026 to vote on it. So they're at least pretending to take this seriously.

But I'll also say that some right-wing court is going to decide the ballot measure is unconstitutional. And the California Dems are going to throw up there hands, announce collectively "Oh well we tried!", and then find a way to blame Transgender people for the Permanent Republican House Majority.

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