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This was bound to happen, and it’s ridiculous

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[–] lorski@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Ministers want it all for themselves! Ha!

[–] jafra@slrpnk.net 1 points 17 minutes ago

Yeah, they want VPN for themselves to watch their CSAM. And to fight CSAM you have to let government sedan all your data and communication.

[–] uhdeuidheuidhed@thelemmy.club 17 points 21 hours ago

Is it still legal for parents to cut up baby dicks there?

"Think of the children" is always bullshit.

[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 22 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

The theme throughout my entire life is more and more control. I can't even go from point A to point B in my city without being recorded every step of the way.

Starting to look like a Big Brother future.

[–] CrabAndBroom@lemmy.ml 11 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

The thing that annoys me the most about it (well, aside from the massive invasion of civil liberties and general dystopian behaviour) is that we don't even get any of the fringe benefits of it. By that I mean, if I contact the government because I need some information about myself (recent examples: vaccine history, polling information, National Insurance query etc.) they act as if they've never been contacted by a person before and seem to immediately go into a panic and send you in a big loop of Other People Who Might Have It, with the end goal seeming to be "nobody knows where it is, let's just hope they give up and stop asking."

Like if the government must insist on tracking every single thing I do and say and look at and place I go to, the least they could do is actually have that info to hand so I can use it too. It seems the more they track us, the less capable they are of actually doing anything useful with that information.

[–] unknown@piefed.social 2 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

Does the government actually own all this information about us though, or is it all outsourced with various private companies?

[–] Deathgl0be@lemmy.world 9 points 20 hours ago

Stop touching boys inappropriately

[–] bomberesque@lemmy.world 8 points 22 hours ago

I skipped a word in that title and read

Stop using VPNs to watch porn, ministers told

Which i prefer, honestly

[–] uhdeuidheuidhed@thelemmy.club 6 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Our representatives do not represent us.

[–] peaceful_world_view@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago

They were all bought decades ago.

[–] commit_aarson@lemmy.ml 24 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

This pisses me off so much. They don't give a single solitary fuck about kids OR their safety online. If they did, they wouldn't do it like this. If/when I have kids, they're not getting a smartphone until they turn 14. Until then, they'll be using a flip phone to contact me. THAT'S how you create a safe online environment for kids, not by banning VPNs which takes away privacy rights from everyone else. They just want to control us and take our right to privacy away but they don't realize that a strict government creates the best liars. If they ban VPNs, people WILL find a way to consume whatever content they desire regardless of what the government says. This can only end badly and make life hell for everyone below a certain tax bracket. Although, I guess that was their goal at the very beginning so I'm just being redundant.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Kids with access to porn will put it on flash drives and sell it to other kids. Are they gonna ban flash drives next?

[–] billwashere@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

No the next thing will be to ban porn completely. Look at Project 2025. It’s in the list. Granted this is a US based initiative but other countries seem to be speed running the checklist.

The document’s foreword asserts that pornography is not protected by the First Amendment and “should be outlawed,” calling for criminal prosecution of producers and distributors and shuttering tech/telecom companies that facilitate its spread

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (2 children)

lol like that is even possible.

Humans have been making porn since we could symbolize things.

[–] billwashere@lemmy.world 5 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Hence boobies on cave walls….

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 5 points 22 hours ago

Or those “ritual fertility goddess” statues they found everywhere

[–] commit_aarson@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

When you have a shit-ton of money and a system rigged in your favor, anything's possible. Hell, for example, if they found a way to ban sexual acts and procreation (what we've been doing since the beginning of our species) whatsoever and restrict it to selected individuals that THEY choose, they'd change the laws to suit them, begin the brainwashing of their supporters under the guise of "the greater good," and then they'd do it and everyone that voted for it would act surprised like any of what happened wasn't foretold years prior.

[–] commit_aarson@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago

I wouldn't be surprised if they did tbh. The ones at the top get what they want and if they see flash drives as a threat, they'll try to ban 'em.

[–] cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone 28 points 1 day ago (1 children)

vpns being more regulated than guns aren't politicians awesome

[–] Guitarfun@lemmy.world 49 points 1 day ago (7 children)

I'm so fucking sick of losing my rights to protect other people's kids. I don't have any fucking kids. Why don't they apply their idiotic rules to those that do and leave the rest of us be.

[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 4 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

I'm a parent and I'm sick of it too. It's so incredibly easy to monitor your kid today as modern parental control system literally do most of the work for you. Also you can just talk and be honest with your kids - 12-16 year olds are pretty smart contrary to what some want you to think.

Literally no one likes this except the bottom of the barrel brain washed idiots. I'm not a conspiracist but I meet other parents and while I'm not based in the UK, porn access was never an issue for any parent so this just reeks of propaganda.

[–] Guitarfun@lemmy.world 2 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Seriously, they build parental controls into pretty much all modern devices and there's plenty of 3rd party software for added functionality and customization. The tools are there for parents. All they have to do is enable and configure them.

I think people who support this shit and other other laws that strip our rights away are virtue signaling, neglectful/lazy, or like you said completely brainwashed. I think that those in power want to slowly work towards banning porn completely and not just in the UK. I've said it elsewhere, but politicians and rich assholes like Elon Musk are worried about birthrates falling and this is just one of many tactics to try to get people to have more kids.

[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 2 points 11 hours ago

The 3rd party apps cost max 100$ a year and does almost everything for you (with plenty of good free 1st party options like Google Family Link). All you have to do is review the alerts and configure screen time and you still let your kids retain good amount of privacy. It's insane how easy it is these days so there are no excuses for any parent, period.

[–] uhdeuidheuidhed@thelemmy.club 5 points 21 hours ago

Who is voting for these people?

I have a feeling that this is another example of the ruling class doing whatever it wants regardless of what the working class wants.

Our representatives do not represent us.

[–] 3abas@lemmy.world 26 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Because it's all an excuse to eliminate all privacy. The empire doesn't survive if the workers are allowed to communicate freely.

[–] Guitarfun@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I know. If they really cared about protecting kids they could force ISPs to sell a whitelisted or blacklisted "Family" service. They could even go further into insanity and force parents to only use that service until their kids turn 18. They could even force parents to install tracking software to make sure kids only connect to safe networks and use school registration records to keep track of homes with children.

Of course that's all rediculous, but obviously they don't want to protect kids. They want to take away our rights and privacy and with the way politicians all over the world have been harping about falling birthrates, making it harder to access porn might cause fewer people to use it in the hope that more people have kids.

[–] jjlinux@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Bullshit, ISPs are not responsible for kids either. That's the parents' job, not any company' or government'.

[–] Guitarfun@lemmy.world 2 points 13 hours ago

I agree completely. I was giving a rediculously extreme example of a way they could actually try to protect kids from porn if that really was their goal.

[–] xiwi@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 1 day ago

Also, give up your rights for the kids, but don't ask for any justice towards the royal pedophile prince, that's bad.

Also, no more free school lunches, think of the children.

[–] menemen@lemmy.ml 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It is not about the children, nor their parents. Redirect your anger towards the perpetrators, not towards the scapegoats...

[–] Guitarfun@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I have no anger towards children or parents in general. I just think it's the parent's responsibility to monitor their kids not the government's. Thus, the only people who should be affected by rediculous rules and laws that "protect children" are people who have children. Plus, there are plenty and religious and right wing parents who support shit like this.

[–] jjlinux@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I have 2 kids, and I can't agree more. My kids have PCs with Linux, I control and monitor everything they do in them, and teach them to use technology responsibly. That's my job, not any government's.

I keep saying this. People have kids, but then don't want the responsibility that carries with it.

[–] Guitarfun@lemmy.world 1 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Very true, more parents should be like you. Unfortunately, I've known many parents who are completely fucking neglectful and when their kid fucks up or gets caught doing something they're not supposed to they look for anyone or anything besides themselves to blame.

I've only known one person who I could honestly say was a good parent. She sacrificed everything to give her 2 sons a great life. She did everything and only put a reasonable amount of responsibility on her kids to help out. She didn't date or go out, she sacrificed her own needs and basically was always working and active in her kids life. One of her son's was autistic and needed a lot of extra attention and care and the other turned out to be the most responsible and well adjusted dude I've ever known. I wish more parents were like her.

[–] jjlinux@lemmy.zip 2 points 11 hours ago

Dude, that was my mom, and with 4 kids. I believe that my brother and I, even more so than my 2 sisters, are the type of parents we are because of how my mom raised us. And I got beat regularly on suspicion alone (but I was always suspicious, so there's that) by her, and today, I could not be more grateful of the mom God gave us. My kids have never been even spanked, no so much as a slap on the wrist, and they go insane when I tell them about how we were raised.

My mom knew every single one of our friends and their parents, and they kept regular communication over the phone. It really took a village to raise a kid 🤣

[–] user224@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 day ago

Linux

I control and monitor everything they do in them

Some software recommendations? I mean, I don't have kids, but I like Linux and it doesn't hurt to know where to perhaps point someone.
So far I only seen Veyon in action, but only for monitoring and remote control of multiple PCs, which probably doesn't fit home environment.

[–] JamesBoeing737MAX@sopuli.xyz 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Because we're fine with kids not having rights, but when anyone else gets mildly screwed by regulation like this we get angry. Great. How about we did something about it before it started affecting us?

[–] Bennyboybumberchums@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Keep watching this bit, so you dont focus on the other bit... which will be to attack end to end encryption in message apps. ie you must put a back door in, so we can see who is saying what, whenever we want.

This labour government, makes me want tories back. Thats how fucking bad they are.

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[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 35 points 1 day ago

ministers told

By a bunch of religious assholes that want more power

By a bunch of corporate assholes that want more money

By a bunch of politician assholes that want more power

Did I forget anyone? Nobody wants this, none of this has to do with child safety, it's all transparent lies to get more for them and less for us. Let's break the entire internet so that a very small group has more

Fuck all of you assholes, o hope you all die soon, the world would be souch better and nicer.

[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 52 points 1 day ago (17 children)

How about tell the parents to pay attention to what their fucking kids are doing online instead of dragging the rest of us into it?

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[–] chrislowles@lemmy.zip 8 points 1 day ago

Either introduce legislation that enforces standardized parental controls for parents to monitor or shut the fuck up.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 15 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I'm getting to the point where I'd rather see csam legalized than this shit. (Keep reading)

Think about it: csam will happen, period. I'm not world's best computer engineer but even Incan build something that embeds data like text or images in other files in ways that cannot be detected. I can build basic but effective encryption that will be hard enough to crack. I can find ways to exchange files outside the internet, hell, do sneakernet

And kids watching porn online? They'll have their buddies who have libraries that will be copied. A single USB drive can contain days of porn videos and you can't stop that either

Then there are these laws that "are to protect children" which makes me just outright want to vomit. You take victims of child pornography and use them for your political gain, for your power. You are almost worse than pedophiles. At least pedophiles harm only one child, you harm all of them you sack of fucking shit.

And no, of course I don't want child pornography legalized, of course not by what is the solution?

These assholes have been at it for decades now and they play the long game. They can lose every year and come back next year. They only have to win once and they move on to he next good thing they can destroy.

So what can we actually really seriously do to stop this?

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[–] Coleslaw4145@lemmy.world 140 points 2 days ago (8 children)

Josh Lane was addicted to porn by 14-years-old after first finding it via a Google search when he was aged 12.

Now 25 and happily married.

Wow. Porn really destroyed this mans life. What a tragic tale.

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