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I imagine this will be disabled in the EU, but it's a concern nonetheless.

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[–] lustrum@sh.itjust.works 20 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I just hate that 100-0% is a cycle regardless of the actual usage. 100-0% is more damaging to the battery than 80-30% twice.

I've turned it off on my P9ProXL just for that reason, i'm treating my battery well and will just swap it out if it's shagged.

[–] Tower@lemmy.zip 9 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

I didn't understand why we didn't set the expectation years ago of phones ignoring the top and bottom 20%. Change it so 80 is the new 100, 20 is the new 0, and then play up the longevity factor and some marketing bs around "we squeeze every last drop out of the last 5%" (ie letting the phone go to 18% or something).

[–] frongt@lemmy.zip 8 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

We did. Your phone's battery controller already does that, and the percentage displayed to you is normalized to the available range.

[–] Tower@lemmy.zip 8 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Then why are we still having to manage 80-20?

[–] frongt@lemmy.zip 7 points 4 weeks ago

You aren't. If you choose to limit it even further, you're actually limiting it to 80-20% of that first 80-20%, or to 68-32% of the battery's true capacity, if I did that math right. (I probably didn't, but you get the idea.)

[–] lustrum@sh.itjust.works 4 points 4 weeks ago

That doesn't ring true when I read the voltage of my phone and compare it to the cell specs.

[–] RiQuY@lemmy.zip 19 points 1 month ago (4 children)

The fix is called Graphene OS.

[–] RheumatoidArthritis@mander.xyz 9 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

From what I've read, Graphene pushed the battery updates though

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 11 points 4 weeks ago

Probably makes sense. They don't want to be responsible for your phone exploding.

[–] sylvieslayer@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Can this be installed even of your OEM Unlocking is greyed out?

[–] AmbiguousProps@lemmy.today 9 points 1 month ago

No, you need to unlock your bootloader during installation (and then relock it after).

[–] nesc@lemmy.cafe 3 points 1 month ago (3 children)

There were news recently that there won't be grapheneos for newer models.

[–] AmbiguousProps@lemmy.today 22 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

This isn't fully true. The GOS team said that it would be much more work since they couldn't use their automated tools to build the image, but not that it's going to be impossible.

https://grapheneos.social/@GrapheneOS/115062657359884451

However, Google is definitely moving in the direction of locking everything down.

[–] cron@feddit.org 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Do you have a definitive source for this? All I found was speculation.

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

GrapheneOS team has extra work cut out for them but nothing that they can't over come.

But this is the beginning of the end IMHO

Over next few years Sundar the creep will ensure they are ml viable

[–] lustrum@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 8 points 1 month ago

Android is open source but Google is starting to move certain things behind closed doors.

This year they decide to no long provide "device trees" for pixel phones... Ie GrapheneOS will need to recerwse engineer android for each pixel devices where before this was provided.

Extra work, hard work but it is doable.

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org -2 points 4 weeks ago

No there wasn't.

[–] frongt@lemmy.zip -3 points 4 weeks ago

Sure, in the same way that the fix for a smoke alarm going off is taking out the battery.

[–] shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip 13 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

Whatever the case I know that I'm very concerned about getting a pixel until they demonstrate several models that don't swell or spontaneously combust into flames. I mean, if they had to kill the 4A, the 6A, which bursts into flames, and the 7A, that makes me highly concerned.

[–] sabreW4K3@lazysoci.al 6 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

If it's any consolation, my 4XL, 6 Pro and 8 Pro have all been fine.

[–] shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip 12 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

I wonder if they're using worse quality batteries in the "A" series since it's a cheaper device. I haven't heard reports of the main devices exploding or bursting into flames. Just the "A" series.

[–] sabreW4K3@lazysoci.al 5 points 4 weeks ago

I'm pretty sure the cost cutting is responsible.

[–] mesamunefire@piefed.social 3 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

Yeah my old 6a by the end of it had to be charged 2x a day. And it was less that 3 years old. My theory is they cheaped out on some component or the batteries themselves. The software just made it even worse for those of us who actually use the phone. But beats it exploding I guess.

Still haven't received my money.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 month ago

we are an American company so we will lie and steal and cheat. Get used to it

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 9 points 4 weeks ago

I can get rid of this fucking phone and get one not made by Google.

[–] Turret3857@infosec.pub 4 points 4 weeks ago

Can custom Roms not prevent this behavior?