Why does this seem like step one in Trump's 'I'm not leaving at the end of my term' plan?
this post was submitted on 22 Aug 2025
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"Just following orders"
Fun fact: during the Nuremberg trials it was determined that the "just following orders" excuse was in fact, not valid; and that someone always ought to disobey their superiors when that goes against liberty.
That's exactly why I posted that.
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I think that’s unfair. Imagine being an impoverished American and one of your only options to afford a college education and healthcare is to join the National Guard, an organization that is rarely activated, and when they are, it’s often to actually help people during things like natural disasters. So you join, you take advantage of the benefits and can actually afford to start a family.
Then all of the sudden, you’re stuck in this situation. Leaving will get you a dishonorable discharge, stripping you and your family of healthcare. Getting another job will be difficult. Or you can just clench your teeth and maliciously comply by waffling on your responsibilities
Because saying no when something isn't just is the right thing to do.
People used to have principles that they just would not break, despite the consequences.
I think it's unfair to have troops deployed in Washington DC. They took a gamble by joining and I can empathize with that. But them complying is furthering the fascist agenda.
Smile, you on camera just following orders.
Are we sure that's D.C.? Looks like the Pentagon (which is across the river in Virginia).
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I hope breaking your oath was worth it. I'm ashamed to see the uniform I once wore now.
This deployment was legal for up to 30 days. They can only refuse illegal orders
What oath? They're literally just standing around doing nothing. This deployment is legal, the president is allowed to do it for 30 days. After that you might have some legal fuckery to try and get them there illegally but it's above board for now.
it's above board for now
Can't wait to continue hearing this while we all board the trains.
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They swore to uphold the Constitution. So far their orders are within the law.
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You mean this oath? The one that swears to obey the orders of the president?
“I, ________, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States and of the State of ______ against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to them; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the Governor of ______ and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to law and regulations. So help me God.”
“According to law and regulations.”
The president is breaking the oldest law we have. Around deez here parts we call that the constitution, Kyle.
So are you going to pay for the legal fight they would have and eventually lose? Will you pay their fines, fees and serve their sentence? And pay them when they can't find a job due to a dishonorable discharge?
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Freedom