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[–] sunbeam60@lemmy.ml 57 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (23 children)

Do the government ministers understand that setting up your own VPN is literally a 5 minute operation.

Hire a droplet VM, pre-installed with a server OS. Log in with provided credentials. sudo apt install docker Copy/paste a docker compose file that sets up a wg-easy container. Create a peer. Take a picture of the provided QR code. Connect to the server via a wireguard app. Done.

Are they going to ban VMs?

[–] DreamlandLividity@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

The VM is associated with your name and payment method. It is about removing privacy so they can remove free speech and other rights. Not about porn. You don't need a VPN to access porn in the UK. Half the porn sites don't verify age anyway.

[–] deepus@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

Don't give them ideas!

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 17 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Do the government ministers understand that setting up your own VPN is literally a 5 minute operation.

Of course they don't. Most of them type with their index fingers and don't even understand what a VPN is.

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[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Docker's an unnecessary extra step. Just install wireguard server on the VM.

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[–] GreenShimada@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago

If someone tells them to, they might try until a few business interests remind them that these are also fundamental components of business networks. Once money tells them to stop it, they will.

VPN companies should just hire a lobbyist for a week and this will all go away.

[–] buddascrayon@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago

Are they going to ban VMs?

They will keep banning things until they feel they have absolute control over the internet.

[–] bilb@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

They could require age verification or even special licensing to use any sort of internet server infrastructure. That's what I would do if that was my goal.

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[–] toad31@lemmy.cif.su 11 points 2 days ago (5 children)

If I had to guess, I'd say the government pushback against porn is a result of members of the ruling class catching their offspring with porn.

[–] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I'd say it has more to do with pandering to religious conservatives to keep them in their pocket.

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[–] vane@lemmy.world 32 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Stop fucking but make children.

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[–] Photuris@lemmy.ml 100 points 3 days ago

We didn’t see this one coming a mile away.

Palantir execs and shareholders are buzzing with anticipation.

[–] IsoKiero@sopuli.xyz 55 points 2 days ago (2 children)

If they were really after kids watching porn (or even porn in general) it would be technically somewhat simple to force ISPs to provide filters on their end as a subscription service. I'm pretty sure I've even heard that kind of services in the past. Make it even opt-out if you really want to.

That way ISPs would just ban everything from pornhub and others unless you spesifically want it allowed or even provide a portal where you could block reddit, twitter, tumblr or whatever you wish on your account. That kind of technology already exists and it's used on many corporate setups.

There's obviously ways around that, but there's no technical way to block every possible way to move bits between computers. Even if they would shut down the whole internet there's still ways to build mesh-networks or even buy USB-drives from a shady alley.

But as we all know, it's not about porn and not about children.

[–] MrRazamataz@lemmy.razbot.xyz 2 points 1 day ago

Before the Online Saftey Act I believe ISP routers default behaviour was to block adult sites (maybe depending on time of day). From what I can find tho, it wasn't required by law. The OSA now places the responsibility on the websites.

[–] x00z@lemmy.world 29 points 2 days ago (7 children)

You can't block porn completely without blocking VPNs. If you connect to a VPN that's all they can see. They can not see what you use the VPN for.

[–] jim3692@discuss.online 22 points 2 days ago (11 children)

You can't block VPNs without blocking the entire internet. You can block known VPN services, but you can't prevent people from hosting their own.

Some known VPN protocols could be blocked, using introspection tools. However, this would just render corporate VPNs useless. VPN traffic is just bytes, and so is WebSockets. Good luck figuring out whether my HTTPS traffic is legitimate internet traffic, or masked VPN traffic.

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[–] Gerudo@lemmy.zip 77 points 3 days ago (2 children)

You ban something, and people will always find a way around it. Always.

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 53 points 3 days ago (6 children)

Yup, and that's how the US got the Mafia. We banned alcohol, but people wanted to drink, so the Mafia made that happen.

All a ban does is hurt law abiding citizens and businesses.

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[–] pineapplelover@lemmy.dbzer0.com 45 points 2 days ago (3 children)

How much you wanna bet the ministers use VPN to watch porn as well?

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[–] Lembot_0004@discuss.online 101 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Stop ministers making laws to... why the fuck they even do this bullshit? They are a government, they know everything about everyone even without such primitive control methods.

[–] Kyrgizion@lemmy.world 88 points 3 days ago

The people pulling the strings have obviously decided that internet freedom is a threat to them and they're taking (global) action to ensure their supremacy.

[–] Baggie@lemmy.zip 54 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Why are the kids technologically illiterate and undersexed until it comes to matters of government control? I'm not usually into tin foil hats, but this doesn't feel like the kids are the primary concern here.

[–] bampop@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

But Dame Wontsomeonethinkof-de-Children saw a government report which says 65% of children under 5 have seen explicit videos of kittens being raped to death using power tools! Surely this constitutes an emergency which requires us to abandon online anonimity

[–] Pure_Psykosis@lemmy.ca 30 points 2 days ago

They aren't.

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[–] Greyghoster@aussie.zone 74 points 3 days ago (8 children)

It’s a bit like “my kids will only eat chocolate” and the therapist’s response “where are they getting the chocolate from?”. If the kids are using VPNs then where are they getting the money for the VPN from? Is this parental consent?

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[–] fluxion@lemmy.world 52 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Clearly it's a parental problem to determine if the VPN they are buying for their kids is being used to wank off, but apparently this party of 'liberty' has an unhealthy obsession with monitoring our children's genitalia these days.

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[–] FUCKING_CUNO@lemmy.dbzer0.com 60 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Dame Rachel told BBC Newsnight: "Of course, we need age verification on VPNs - it's absolutely a loophole that needs closing and that's one of my major recommendations."

If this fucker had any idea what VPN even stood for they'd realize how fuckin stupid this statement is...

[–] MyDogLovesMe@lemmy.world 58 points 3 days ago (4 children)

Ya! Let them watch all that violence on Netflix instead!

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[–] laz@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 points 2 days ago

Moronic bit is atlast asking parents to be responsible

[–] bluecat_OwO@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

we could have arrived at this argument before this whole data stealing conundrum

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