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Well this thread has taught me the anti-Corbyn people are completely unhinged
Someone please tell me why I shouldn't be optimistic about this.
Because we have FPTP and this will further split the left vote and let Reform / Tories in.
Our number one priority should be to kill FPTP and make it so we don't have governments only a minority of the voters wanted.
We know a Corbyn Labour party scares people to vote against Labour. He has a ceiling. There is a lot of country that subscribes to his views, but not enough to do more than strip those votes from Lab/Lib/SNP/Green/Plaid.
Reform are worse than Tories and I fear if they ever get power, they do a Trump. Damage the country and be hard to remove.
They will at the very least need a pact with Polanski's Greens. If Starmer continues down his current trajectory, I can see a similar exodus of Labour voters to these two to Tory voters' exodus to Reform
If you go from Labour to Reform, your not of the Left. Or fooled. Guess will find out if the left is so split by election time and Reform splip in. I'm blame Corybn for that like I do for Boris's win. That time it was by repelling people to the Tories. This time it would be vote splitting. Though I agree with a good chunk of what he says, he a political menace of the left.
I'm just assuming this guy made his own party because the other options don't actually fight for the working class.
If the party you support's main goal is to "kill their enemies" or whatever, perhaps the best way to go about doing that would be to align itself with the working class.
This would intrinsically mean supporting policies that reduce the disparity in wealth.
I think all the left wing parties agree there is a problem with in equality. If the left splitters off to load into so many parties, it will lose. No matter if it makes up over half the electorate. FPTP is basically rigged against the left because the left struggle to compromise and unify.
I don't know a great deal, but his stance on the Russia/Ukraine war concerns me.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/aug/02/jeremy-corbyn-urges-west-to-stop-arming-ukraine
He is anti war. He has been anti war for decades and decades. He is authentic and consistent on this issue. I don't agree how he is applying that principle on Russia Ukraine, but I respect his opinion.
And that's democracy, which is what his new party is making promises of - it will be a bottom up, grass-root and democratic party. So I am not too concerned with Corbyn's personal opinion.
(And like, the detractors are so fixated on this issue. They literally have nothing else to say, no other critics to offer. You mention Corbyn and immediately they are like "oH wHat aBoUt Russia-Ukraine" (a few years ago it was "oH bUt He iS an aNtiSemIte???"), as if that is the single most significant problem Britain is facing right now?? not housing, not NHS, not education, not the gutting of the wealth of the working class??? Talking about single issue voters. (sorry about the rant))
He is not anti-war, he is pro-russian genocidal imperialism.
He is a tankie, and when has the working class done well under regimes that tankies support?
Lol dude, your brian is melted. What are you even saying.
Don't see that objectionable stuff in there, really. I'm in favour of arming Ukraine. This article is several years old. It's not like Starmer stopped the war either. In fact, I think most Western European politicians have an interest in the war dragging on for as long as possible
Funny how, according to this article, his stance on Russia/Ukraine is "Palestine should be free". Really concerning stuff.
Corbyn is good on Gaza, but he is terrible on literally everything else. He is a huge supporter of Putin and russian genocidal imperialism as well.
Wow I don't know if I've ever come across anyone who holds all of those specific opinions. It's genuinely interesting to me. I'd have expected "he's a raging antisemite" instead of "good on Gaza", given the rest of what you said
Or is it when you say "literally everything else" do you just mean "other foreign policy stuff"?
"he's an antisemite" is sooo yesteryear, you need to keep up with the propaganda smear machine.
This commenter is just understandably misled by the UK media's decades-long smear campaign. He is absolutely not "a huge supporter of Putin and russian genocidal imperialism as well", if you take a look at his history of words and actions.