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[–] Blaze@lemmy.zip 39 points 1 month ago (1 children)

As usual, reminder that Piefed allows actual instance blocking

[–] gigachad@piefed.social 14 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Does that mean Piefed also blocks comments and posts of blocked instance users to other instances?

[–] rimu@piefed.social 22 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Yes, when you post to a PieFed community on your own instance your post won't be sent to any instances that you've blocked.

Although if you post to a Lemmy community we can't control where they forward it to. It's complicated.

[–] ItsComplicated@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 month ago

It's complicated.

That's my line!

[–] gigachad@piefed.social 10 points 1 month ago (3 children)

I love complicated! I am trying to understand. Let's say I have blocked lemmy.ml:

  • a ml won't see a post I submitted to piefed.social, and also I don't see a post they submitted to piefed.social
  • ml user posting to lemmy.world can be seen by me and also sees my post to Lemmy.world
  • I cannot interact with lemmy.ml (makes sense)
  • A post crossposted from lemmy.world to piefed.social by a ml user can be seen by me

Did I get it right? This is of course a purely hypothetical scenario, I would never speak bad about our great tankie leaders from lemmy.ml

[–] rimu@piefed.social 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yes, I think so.

Although this one: ml user posting to lemmy.world can be seen by me and also sees my post to Lemmy.world - I'm not sure about that. I doubt you'd see anything posted by a .ml user.

Defederation is another layer of blocking and it works almost the same but slightly differently too.

Honestly I haven't systematically tested all the possible combinations of settings and all the different places where it might have an effect on other instances. It's a lot. Also most of the blocking code was written almost 2 years ago so it's not something I look at often anymore.

[–] DonnyDorko@midwest.social 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

So on Pyfedi, does the instance have two layers of blocking? Meaning, "block" and "defederation," or is blocking only for users?

[–] Blaze@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 month ago

Blocking is a the user level

Defederation is at the instance level

(and it's called Piefed)

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

i blocked the tankie instances, but it wont stop tankie accounts from being seen by you, if they comment on another instance. they only pose a problem if they post outside of tech related posts.

[–] asudox@lemmy.asudox.dev 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Hey, I wanted to confirm something. Does that mean the blocklist of users are sent to the community's instance?

[–] rimu@piefed.social 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

No, we check your blocklist before sending and just don't send there if it's an instance you've blocked.

[–] asudox@lemmy.asudox.dev 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

So the user's instance sends the activity? The community's instance doesn't do the sending?

[–] rimu@piefed.social 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Oh, now I see what you're getting at. No, if the user and the community are on different instances then the community instance wouldn't know what the user has blocked. What I said earlier assumes you're posting on a local community.

But honestly why wouldn't everyone just be a piefed.social user and post exclusively in piefed.social communities? ;) /s

[–] asudox@lemmy.asudox.dev 1 points 1 month ago

Ah okay, got it. Thanks for the info. Sorry for the previous misunderstanding.

[–] fxomt@anarchist.nexus 21 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] PotatoesFall@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

So it was merged in June? Then it should be working on most instances soon right?

[–] fxomt@anarchist.nexus 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Its in Lemmy 1.0, when that releases all instances will support the feature

[–] lemmyknow@lemmy.today 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Uhhh… 1.0? Is Lemmy Beta?

[–] fxomt@anarchist.nexus 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Pretty much. We're still on 0.19.12. Next version should be the very first 1.0 release.

[–] lemmyknow@lemmy.today 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

1.19.12 -> 1.0 ???

How does this version numbering system work?

[–] bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

They made a typo. It's 0.19.12.

[–] fxomt@anarchist.nexus 2 points 1 month ago

fuck i didn't notice lol, thank you for the correction; edited

[–] OpenStars@piefed.social 9 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Nope - it is far worse than that, it also does not block messages either, only communities.

And worse than that even is that it used to do so, but the so-called "instance block" has actually gotten weaker over time. Imagine receiving notifications to your inbox for WEEKS and WEEKS upon making what you thought was a fairly innocuous comment in Chapotraphouse... and then going through all that again on Lemmygrad.ml! Purity beatings will continue until morale improves.

If you don't like let's say Lemmy.ml, then you are free to either block each and every single user on it individually (which one guy, ptz, actually did that! 🤣), or you are free to leave Lemmy itself (which I did myself, and am now enjoying the fantastic experience on PieFed! ❣️), or if you can find one you may join an instance that defederates from them (note that no major instances are willing to do so). Welcome to Reddit 2.0! Remember not to say anything bad about Russia, China, or North Korea or you'll be instance-wide banned from communities that you've never even heard of before! :-P

The "instance block" really is horribly misnamed - it should have been called a "community muting" imho. Oh well, what do I know, and here I thought that Lemmy.ml was a community for FOSS enthusiasts, hur-dur I wonder where I could have gotten that silly idea from!? 🤪

[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 month ago

And don't you dare say ML has a reputation for banning people, because ML will ban you for that.

[–] m532@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 1 month ago

What did you write that got you weeks of comments?

[–] Tweak@feddit.uk 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Then pick an instance that blocks their instance, or start your instance (with or without blackjack and hookers).

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

While that is a current solution, they should add a third block option for instance users.

What happened do vegantheoryclub?