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[–] marcos@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Yes, it's typical.

Votes don't mean much, but communities that deviate from the main spirit have to live with them. (And yes, that's mostly bad, even though in a few cases it's good.)

[–] Skavau@piefed.social 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

No, to be fair, they can ban the downvoters

[–] marcos@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yes, they can. But that's quite a lot of permanent work. Lots of people interact with the content here without even looking where it is.

I have only seen the "bad" unaligned communities doing that. The ones that actually have interesting stuff seem to just live with the votes.

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[–] bizarroland@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I try my best to only downvote explicitly hateful or unhelpful comments

But I can get it because I have blocked every single news source I possibly can, and like every three to eight days a new one pops up.

Like, I don't give a fuck about news. I don't want to know how miserable the world is or how much more miserable it is than yesterday. I want to look at kitties and titties and maybe some funny stuff in between and that's about it.

[–] Blaze@lemmy.zip 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Piefed has built in keyword filters.

The Lemmy.world team has an instance: https://piefed.world/

I don't care about news either, and the amount I see has reduced quite a lot thanks to that.

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[–] misk@piefed.social 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Avoid „default” communities and instances, they tend to bring the worst of Reddit to Threadiverse. It’s slightly less of an issue if you stick to places that try to be different. You won’t avoid drive-by downvotes from /all but I don’t think it’s that much of an issue (there’s just too much crap there for anyone to browse it by time of posting).

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posts on /all immediately get downvoted by bots and users who enjoy downvoting everything. You can use lemvotes or be a mod and see these accounts. I have seen accounts with many thousands of downvotes and zero comments or upvotes. Best to just ignore the votes or go to an instance that ignores them if you can't 🤷🏼‍♀️

[–] Brett@feddit.org 9 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

For me that was always the spirit with up/downvote driven communities. If you are in the mood to sift through "new" you "leave your mark". With that logic in my mind i could see how Apple and Nintendo related posts would gather more downvotes on the Fediverse compared to other sites.

To be clear i'm really uncertain if thats the case here.

I atleast dont take any offense by the mere mention of Nintendo or Apple and feel the need to instantly downvote even though i'm not a fan of neither company.

Actively going to these subs to just downvote is stupid for obvious reasons though. What a waste of time.

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago

The downvote is used to express negative sentiments

[–] JillyB@beehaw.org 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I'm on Beehaw. I don't see down votes. Blissful ignorance.

[–] lvxferre@mander.xyz 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (8 children)

Expanding on what I said to another user. The problem with simply removing downvotes is that people still find low-hanging fruits to voice disagreement through, often worse than the downvotes. Then there are two choices:

  • let them be. Hexbear does this, and its users use emotes instead, that increase the visibility of bad content.
  • moderate against it. Beehaw does this, and it burdens its moderation team further.

Note mod burden is the major reason Beehaw is not federated with LW or SJW, even if its admins would be otherwise OK with those two.

It's things like this that make me think we (people discontent with downvotes) are a bit too eager to throw the resource away because of its flaws, instead of trying to address them.

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[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 days ago

Yes. It takes real restraint for me not to reflexively downvote news I don't like, or posts that makes me cringe but they're legitimate for the topic at hand. Also sometimes I downvote by accident without realizing.

Asking why things are downvoted or complaining about them are the two most surefire ways to receive plenty of them on the Threadiverse.

Upvotes or downvotes aren't worth anything, don't take it personally if you get downvoted. I've said unpopular stuff too and received downvotes. Once I wrote a raunchy joke and the votes on it went (1 -> 0-> 3 -> -5 -> 6 -> 20)

[–] OpenStars@piefed.social 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Sadly... yes.

Some people feel like (I would say "think" but that seems not entirely accurate:-P) their preferences are the only ones that should matter, and that their right to "speak" should triumph over ("trump"?) your right to not have to listen. Entirely without the slightest hint of awareness as to the irony that they are supporting the very right-wing fascist ideologies that they claim to be against!! (I have taken to calling these the "Alt-Left", since they act identically to the USA "Alt-Right" that uses "alternative facts" in lieu of real ones as the basis for their belief structures). e.g. if they do not like a certain book then it is not sufficient for them to simply never read it - instead, everyone else must be denied the opportunity to access it as well, regardless of the circumstances you may find yourself in (being required to read it as part of a college course, seeking a well-balanced viewpoint by examining all sides of an issue, even highly negative ones?).

See also the phenomenon of "Eternal September". When people who act like children - of whatever physical age - flood the room, it becomes impossible for adults to have any kind of rational conversation. Put another way: respect is not something to be expected on the internet. When they go low... well, you have no choice but to take it and like it! Or you can leave.

No seriously: if you can move to a PieFed community, that would provide the only realistic solution I can think of to that problem that you are describing. Lemmy provides none (well, there is one but it is enormously extreme: it would involve making a community visible only to people on the same instance as wherever it is located, blocking out the entire rest of the Fediverse by default and forcing people to have accounts on every instance that chose to do this, thereby invalidating the entire concept of federation itself; although note the concept itself has merit for narrowly discussing certain instance-specific matters where outside opinions are neither appropriate nor welcomed, at the behest of the instance owner + admins) - and I doubt that it ever will, given how far behind Lemmy is in terms of features and how slowly those are added (it uses the very difficult to learn Rust coding language), plus the authoritarian biases present in the current set of its developers (who seem to prefer an admin dealing with such at the instance level rather than granting that power to anyone below the admin level). However, PieFed allows communities to receive votes only from people who have actually subscribed to that exact community - others can view the content, but only if they click the subscribe button can they interact with it to sway its visibility in that manner.

Yes, I am saying that PieFed might very well legitimately "save" the very concept of threaded social media, preventing it from being abandoned entirely by those of us who cannot stand the screaming cries of toddlers fucking literally fucking every fucking single fucking place that we fucking go. I would rather go read a book that I checked out from a library and never visit the Threadiverse again if I could not find such hope that no, somebody else's preferences do not get to dictate literally every tiny aspect of life that we all are allowed to live, which does not sound the tiniest bit like "freedom" to me.

Though I admit that I may be too overly sensitive right now to the absolute tidal wave of emotional vomiting that goes on across the Threadiverse (I live in America where the "will of the people" is leading to ah... uh... "big changes" as of late, so sadly I am losing hope that the masses always know what is "best" at all times - especially when not articulated in a well-reasoned rebuttal but merely delivered as a drive-by downvoting spree).

[–] Cris_Color@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Not made by me, but excellent oc by another lemmite https://startrek.website/post/27897300

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