it's not an alternative if they still have final say.
it's also not your property if the company can dictate what you run on it either. Stop giving these scum your money.
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Yeah, neither Android nor iOS is good. We should all be buying linux devices, like this: https://starlabs.systems/pages/starlite
Tbey sont have any in the U.S unfortunatly. They wont sell the radios to access our cell networks to companies that wont docwhat they want them to do. Like lock bootloaders, ban apps they dont like, etc.
Whomp.
How, pray tell, is that a replacement for a phone??
It isn't. I don't particularly care for phones, and nobody mentioned phones specifically.
Edit: Though there are plenty of linux phones or linux for android phones.
Sadly, there are very few Linux tablets, so we thought we'd give an option.
You quite literally referenced two phone OSes.
Android is not inherently a phone OS, it works on tablets too. Fair about iOS, though it's not unusual for folks to refer to the tablet OS as that, or just use it generally.
I feel like you're just being obtuse on purpose. There are many people, myself included, who would use a Linux phone if the OS was there and you could get one with flagship specs. As it stands, you cannot.
sighs No, we aren't. We are glad, but honestly we are glad there are linux phones out there, they are easier to search for than linux tablets though.
The pawblem with the existing ones is that they all, as phones, suck.
Ah, okay, thanks for the info 🙂
How useable is Linux phone compare to Android/iPhone?
If it's Sailfish OS (Xperias or Jollaphones, updates are paid), apart from apps (hit or miss if it's popular enough, pure miss if it isn't), everything works fine (I guess, I haven't tried it).
If it's anything else, it's still murky.
Are third party iOS app stores available on the US?
No. But we can sideload. Two apps for free, have to be authorized every 7 days. (It’s actually three, but the app that does this for you takes a slot, so that and two others.)
You can also get a developer license for $99/year that lets you do unlimited with a much longer authorization window.
does it really have that limitation? I sideloaded a tweaked copy of spotify like 2 years ago and haven't had to do anything to maintain it since.
i'm pretty sure you also need to have a mac device since it requires xcode (or did last time i researched it; i don't have ios anymore)
Yes. If you're a free developer (you have to register as a developer to even do this), you have to re-authorise the app every 7 days or it gets "revoked" which means the app will not launch.
You also have to install a certificate that certifies the app(s) to you. This is generally safe, but you should be careful with trust certificates. You're basically taking full responsibility for the code that's being executed on your device. If you haven't audited the source code (or if someone you trust hasn't), it might be a risk.
If you used a signing service, someone has bought a bunch of paid developer licenses and they've given you the certificate for one of them. Once Apple discovers this, they'll revoke that developer license which revokes your apps. The signing service will then issue you a new certificate. Revokes aren't super common, or so they say (I've never used a signing service).
They recently (two days ago) did a massive revoke on the paid certificates. All known sellers got hit with the massive revoke and it is at the moment a bit of a mess.
Rumor goes that Apple also hit actual developers with the revoke hit. So curious how that goes.
Interesting. I don't really remember what I did to put it on my phone, but it does appear separately in the app library under my name instead of the 'entertainment' category. I haven't wanted to do anything with it since it still works.
Is it worth it? All things considered? Genuinely asking.
Stores like AltStore and SideStore automatically re-auth apps so it's less of a hassle than you might think. I literally only use it for Tails, the e621 app.
Nothing in Apple's ecosystem is worth it.
What qualifies for you as “worth it?”
It was just a snarky comment. Apple does a lot of things well. I just find their anticompetitive practices deplorable.
I would be ok with the anticompetitiveness if I could just install my own ram in my own computer, or replace a hard drive, or fiddle with and break iPhone cable that are thickness of tissue paper, and equally as durable. Also, I wouldn’t be ok with the anticompetitiveness. Also the enshittification of their software drives me up the wall regularly. I made a Lemmy community just to have a platform to bitch about it. But to me, even with all that (and more) they are still the least terrible option. We very much need to make stock buybacks illegal again.
You know what I find deplorable? Spyware as a feature. Like Android.
Also, Google bypasses ad blockers. Say you have an iPhone, or an unrooted Android phone. You're blocking ads? You're using DNS to do it. The Google app, and Google apps in general, ignore the system DNS settings and use Google's own DNS. There are some good reasons they do it, but the chief upshot for Google is, they get to inject ads into a device whose owner explicitly tries to block them. Since ads can also carry malware/ransomware, Google is intentionally opening a security hole in a device you may not be able to 100% secure, but could be fairly secure. Relatively secure. For a smartphone.
I actually got ransomware on a popular Android blog through an ad they served. I'd just wiped my phone — this was the last Android phone I'd owned. So I mean, I'd wiped the internal ROM. Repartitioned it, installed a recovery (TWRP, naturally), and then flashed a custom OS. Back then, you couldn't get stock Android on a national carrier in the US. So, I was flashing a European CFW customised with the CDMA radios that the US was using at the time (we're all GSM now like the rest of the world, I think the last CDMA towers, which were 3G, have been shut down but I'm not sure — Sprint and US Cellular were CDMA and they're both part of T-Mobile, and Verizon was the big one and they're all on the GSM tech now). Anyway, I hadn't installed AdAway yet, I was just reading tech blogs, when my screen went red, said illegal content was detected on my device, pay "the FBI" so many thousand dollars in Bitcoin to unlock my device. I laughed, wiped the internal ROM again and started over... installing AdAway before going out to the open web. Lesson learned. But that's the kind of thing Google intentionally opens its users up to by tunneling around the ad blocker. (I don't name the tech blog because I contacted them and they were very helpful in identifying the source of the ransomware attacks and getting that advertiser de-listed. So there is no reason to "name and shame." But it can happen to anyone, and without even going to "shady" sites.)
Google’s new motto appears to be, “Just be Evil.”
Oh, I hate a lot about Android/Google too. One particular pet peeve of mine is that WebAPKs are still exclusive to Chrome (and, on Samsung devices only, Samsung Internet) despite the FAQ promising that "We are working on it. We are committed to making this available to all browsers on Android and we will have more details soon." (Last updated 2017-05-21)
There is no good option in smartphones, you have to choose the lesser evil. For me that's Android. I can appreciate that for some people it would be iOS. What drives me up a wall is that people defend these awful practices.
i think you should be asking yourself that?
If you already shelled out the shekels for an Apple device, you certainly don't care about paying superfluous money so this shouldn't be an issue.
I don’t do it. The 7 day thing really isn’t worth it and they aren’t any iOS apps to sideload I care about.
Delta is the coolest emulator due to cloud sync and it’s in the App Store.
I consider it worth it for an ad free utub sideload as well as a manga app I found through AltStore. The utub on its own was worth it.
Which utub app?
Probably uYou+