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I've gotten a new phone and setting it up for the past few days - a Fairphone 5 with Android installed. So obviously, this means I can't escape Googles clutches. Sure, whatever.

I have been VERY adamant about pressing "No" on all prompts, that try to get me to try something out or use some dumb service. I do not want any AI tool or similar to go through my files.

Yet, while perousing the depths of my system settings, I realized Google Photos was using a suspicous amount of storage. Somehow, it had "synchronized" ALL my locally saved pictures - this included pictures of my vacations, my drivers license, private pictures I would have rather not shared, and so on...

And while checking the Google Photos App for the damage done, obviously it had already automatically generated "previews" and "albums" for me, neatly organized.

IT HAD AUTOMATICALLY ANALYSED MY DRIVERS LICENSE AND SAVED IT INTO AN ALBUM CALLED "Identity-related"

How the fuck is this legal? I am so mad at myself right now. I'm usually so fuckin cautious about denying any sort of pop-up and setting all settings as strictly as possible.

So obviously I just had to spent 2 hours figuring out how to turn this "synchronization" off, and how to delete all photos in google photos - spoiler alert: There is no "Delete All" button. You have to manually select every single fucking image.

Sorry for the rant, I hope it's not too off-topic. I'm just so mad right now.

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[–] interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml -3 points 10 hours ago

What proof do you have that you in fact pressed no ?

Also, didn't you press I agree to anything that gives google indemnity against any of this when you first turned on the phone ?

I think you would need a complete video recording from fresh firmware wipe to the action you describe happening, to establish it is or isn't happening.

Google will have make sure that proving them in the wrong takes a whole lot of effort

[–] frongt@lemmy.zip 4 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

That all sounds like on-device behavior. You didn't say anything about it actually being uploaded.

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[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 6 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

Faschist company with a faschist government. Stop asking for legal, take control, go Open Source.

[–] Core_of_Arden@lemmy.ml 2 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Well, next time, make sure you have your settings set correctly - test with a few pictures at first...

I use pCloud, and it works great for my needs. I have deleted everything I had ever uploaded to Google, besides the simplest backup from my mobile phone, so I can easily restore it, if my phone breaks and I need a new one.

[–] quick_snail@feddit.nl 1 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Pcloud has a backdoor. By default end to end encryption is off (and it can be turned off again)

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[–] FriendOfDeSoto@startrek.website 7 points 23 hours ago

If you were using Photos as a photo roll app you need to stay angry at yourself a while longer. That's on you when you should know you cannot trust the G. Don't grant an app permissions to photos and videos that could sync it to the cloud. And as another precaution, don't keep sensitive pictures in the DCIM folder. If I have to take pictures of sensitive documents like that I disable WiFi (sync set up on WiFi only), take the picture, move it to a folder that's never backed up elsewhere on my phone, and then turn WiFi back on.

You are not normal because you care about these things. The normal user doesn't care and that's who they are catering for. I'm not excusing their behavior (I don't like it either) and at the same time you need to be more on your toes.

I'm planning to move to Ente this year when my Google cloud subscription runs out. Not looking forward to the work it entails but to the [paints face blue] FREEDOM!

[–] Showroom7561@lemmy.ca 3 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

I use Adguard and block Google photos from connecting to the internet.

Features like edit video still work, so I'm good. If editing didn't work, I'd disable it.

[–] quick_snail@feddit.nl 1 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Does that block YouTube too?

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[–] davel@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 day ago
[–] fluckx@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago (3 children)

If you disable Google photos storage access you don't even have a camera roll :/

That's how embedded the damn thing is

[–] quick_snail@feddit.nl 1 points 14 hours ago

OpenCamera is better anyway

[–] Dreaming_Novaling@lemmy.zip 2 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Oh damn really? I was just about to tell OP why didn't they just delete Google Photos and use something like Aves instead. But if disabling/deleting the app disables camera roll then that's total bullshit. That should be like lawsuit worthy, I shouldn't have to use your app to have pictures, especially when that service is doing sneaky uploads.

[–] fluckx@lemmy.world 1 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (1 children)

I just checked,

google photos has permanent access to photos and videos. If you disable the app the camera roll no longer works. I get "activity not found".

Maybe with a FOSS camera app it might still work? I haven't tried.

Edit: and that is the only permission which it has ( photos and videos ). Everything else ( location, contacts, ... ) is not allowed. But that one permission is auto permanently allowed.

[–] quick_snail@feddit.nl 1 points 14 hours ago

Just don't install gapps. Its missing by default when you install the OS..

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[–] Tundra@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 day ago (2 children)

install e/os:

https://doc.e.foundation/devices/FP5

or:

CalyxOS releases are paused, but when they are back: https://calyxos.org/

[–] RealM__@lemmy.world 5 points 23 hours ago

e/os is most likely my next step, especially with Google disabling installing "unverified" third-party apps in 2026.

Bought a FP5 with e/os in mind as a possible upgrade path, I just was too worried to immediately do the full jump.

[–] whatsgoingdom@rollenspiel.forum 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yes, I've installed e/os on my fairphone 5 and it just works. I even got my banking apps to work.

[–] birdwing@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Hmm... I wonder... does GrapheneOS work on the Fairphone?

[–] Eat_Your_Paisley@lemmy.world 2 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

They don't and in their typical style they've written a very verbose post or two on why

[–] birdwing@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Huh, link to their explanation?

[–] Eat_Your_Paisley@lemmy.world 2 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

I don't but its been posted a couple of times on Mastodon, I assume its on their blog and in their forms too.

The jist is Fairphone doesn't have the security HW to run it

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[–] wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

Additional tip: You can use the universal android debloater tool to remove built in apps on your phone.

[–] NarrativeBear@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (9 children)

Check out Aves Libre on F-Droid

I had to ditch Google Photos app because of my paranoia, about this exact same thing that happened to you.

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[–] AceFuzzLord@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I was gonna say something about postmarketOS, but it's not ready yet. Mobian is also not ready for it either.

So next best option if you really wanna get rid of this type of stuff is either rooting your device to remove what you don't need or flashing something like GrapheneOS or a different OS.

But I'd consider that a last resort if you already have everything set up just right and have things you don't wanna lose and can't backup easily. That, and if it's a work related device, you're screwed.

[–] quick_snail@feddit.nl 1 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Just buy your next phone from iode. It's preinstalled.

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