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[–] HiTekRedNek@lemmy.world 158 points 6 days ago (56 children)

This is exactly the kind of government overreach people like me have been screaming about since, in my case, the 1990s.

"I told you so" just doesn't feel so good when what's happening is nothing less than the entirety of human freedom and liberty is being eroded before our very eyes, and those who disagree with it get labeled as kooks, and accused of hating whatever "oppressed group" of the day is in vogue.

[–] hector@lemmy.today 3 points 1 day ago

Plus no one I have warned from 97 on admits to remembering my warnings. Them all saying nah keep your head down and live, govt has always been bad, nothing will fundamently change.

The same people still support establishment opposition to save us too, following the lead of authorities passing the buck and never admitting a mistake and correcting their behavior.

[–] Gutless2615@ttrpg.network 52 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I’m so so very tired of being right.

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 16 points 6 days ago (2 children)

have you tried being intentionally and absurdly wrong?

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[–] General_Effort@lemmy.world 22 points 6 days ago (23 children)

Yes. I had always worried about the copyright industry. That was the big money pushing for censorship. Controlling access and exchange of information is part of their business model and even personal ideology. But I don't know how much this has actually to do with them, and how much is simply the will to power.

What I did not see coming at all was how the left would completely 180 on these issues. That, at least, I blame on the copyright industry.

Right wing people have screeched about "the intolerant left" forever, but I always ignored the obvious hypocrisy. I took it as a debate on what is permissible in polite society. But now Europe is at a point where there is simply a consensus against free speech. Only the most illiberal forces will be able to use these legal weapons to full effect. That will be the extreme right.

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[–] cley_faye@lemmy.world 47 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I think that was the point. Not only decentralized services, but a lot of small and/or individual services too. The way age verification is done is both stupid, and expensive. Only the big names will remain.

[–] iii@mander.xyz 9 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Only the big names will remain.

As intended. Obvious regulatory capture

[–] BigMacHole@sopuli.xyz 43 points 6 days ago (1 children)

We NEED to Protect The Children which is WHY we're SO LUCKY to have a President who is SO KEEN to PROTECT Child Rapists like Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell!

[–] jaschen306@sh.itjust.works 10 points 5 days ago

Protect Jeffrey Epstein? Last I checked, he doesn't need anymore "protecting".

Trump only cares about himself. If he accidentally "protected" anyone but himself, it's purely a coincidence.

[–] brachiosaurus@mander.xyz 84 points 6 days ago (19 children)

If you know anyone who support age verifications laws remind them that the same governments that care so much about kids is backing and arming israel to murder and starve kids to death.

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 37 points 6 days ago (2 children)

That's far too many words for them to properly understand

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[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 18 points 6 days ago

Yes but that would require them to regard all children as being worthy of protection by the law.

They don't.

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[–] Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca 88 points 6 days ago

Hey, UK! When you are being compared to Mississippi, you are fucking up very very badly.

[–] abbiistabbii@lemmy.blahaj.zone 54 points 6 days ago (19 children)

I live in the UK, and this is something I was saying about the Online Safety Act. It puts all the onus on the websites and not only do some websites not have the money or resources to comply, but with something like Mastodon, it doesn't really work. Like this bill was written and passed by people who don't know shit about fuck about tech. Several Lemmy and Mastodon instances have shut down/Geoblocked the UK because of this, and other jurisdictions don't seem to understand that either.

[–] SethTaylor@lemmy.world 23 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

It's almost like this law was made to preserve the Meta monopoly. Starting a social media platform just got more expensive and complicated.

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[–] moonburster@lemmy.world 13 points 5 days ago

If a government wants this in place, they should also facilitate the means.

[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 35 points 6 days ago

“there is nobody that can decide for the fediverse to block Mississippi.” (...)

“And this is why real decentralization matters,” said Rochko.

[–] willow@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 5 days ago (1 children)

And of course, even if they did, tech savvy kids can just self-host an instance on their own computer.

[–] interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml 6 points 5 days ago

Comply or be defederated !

[–] VampirePenguin@lemmy.world 22 points 6 days ago (3 children)

I don't see how Mississippi or the UK think they can issue laws on sites hosted outside their jurisdiction. That's just mind boggling. The onus is on the state to provide age verification, or make their ISPs do it.

[–] Aimeeloulm@feddit.uk 16 points 6 days ago (2 children)

No, it's upto the individuals to police their or their childrens internet usage, have family computer in place they can monitor, children should have special childrens phones that are locked down with parents configuring it, today parents are abdicating responsibility, leaving schools to feed, potty train, how to clean teeth and how to behave.

Whats next expecting schools to provide beds and rooms to sleep in, soon babies will be handed to state and raised by the state, is it any wonder we now have a nanny state in many countries, people are getting lazy and filthy, spitting in streets, peeing and pooping in streets, dumping rubbish in streets 😡

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[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 29 points 6 days ago (1 children)

If it's a law, it should be free for both businesses and users.

[–] tabular@lemmy.world 26 points 6 days ago (4 children)

That means being paid by the tax payers.

The free option is to trust your children.

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