I didn't even know they had gay sizes.
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Just buy in Temu, they put these BS sizes but there's always a chart in cm so if you know your numbers you get it right.
Same thing when I wanted Business shirts. Where I live it's all s m l bulshit. I went to Macy's online and they sell most brands by 3 measures I think, can't remember, it's collar size, arm length in inches. Well worth the international shipping fees for a week's worth of shirts. Now I mostly work from home, I think they'll last until I retire lol
Not limited to gender. I'm stronger built than the average man and have to live with too long XXL jeans with too less ass.
I feel this. Even for jeans, where measurements are given, it can be tricky to get them right. Oftentimes, the cut makes all the difference. In the end, that's the design of the garment and that might fit your body or not. I think designers should have all the freedom in the world making their jeans tighter or looser, higher or lower at the spots they want but a better description would reduce returns for online stores a lot.
Though, I've seen some stores which put serious effort into this, allowing you to enter body measurements and then showing how it might fit you with a sketch or allowing you to compare it with another pair of jeans.
Tbh, online shopping clothes has never been a good idea. I don't know how it became so popular when it is so much extra effort to find clothes that actually fit without gathering a huge collection of pieces that don't.
I refuse to allow anyone else to buy clothes for me
It's not a women's problem it's just a clothing problem in general.
I was extremely upset the other day to find out that I need an extra large in shirts at this one store. Apparently in Next if you are tall you must also be fat other body types are impossible.
And yes I have also seen the same cut in the same store but two different colours be different sizes for the same declared size.
I ordered new shoes last week, same size as always of course. They're at least two sizes too large. WTF?
I suppose one of the many reasons why there are no consistent clothing sizes is because it's so difficult to agree on a way to measure things. What parts do you measure? The lower leg thickness? the upper leg thickness? the waist circumference? The leg's length? What if these numbers are all independent of each other and can't be reduced to a single number?
different cuts exist that already set out at least some standards for this
I don't disagree that it is difficult, but we have the ability to do this. We've done more difficult things
We have centimetres, how hard is it to just provide the measurements of a piece of clothing with it?
I feel the same way, especially shoes. I guess the chart, size guide and even measurements is BS. This is why I dont order clothes online, last order I got the shirts are like big night shirts. Ah, well.