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In 2023, the then-Conservative government awarded Palantir with a £330m contract to “build a new NHS data platform”. The move proved controversial because Palantir is a US spy tech firm and its co-founder Peter Thiel is a prominent Trump donor with links to convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein. Now, a trove of leaked emails have shone further light on Thiel’s connections.

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[–] ALLGLORYTOHYPNOTOAD@lemmy.world 241 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Peter Thiel is pure evil. This tie is not surprising at all. The piece of shit is un-ironically giving a lecture on the antichrist in September.

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 40 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Hopefully it leaks, and we can hear it in full.

[–] paraphrand@lemmy.world 32 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (3 children)

“I hope the voice of the antichrist is recorded and disseminated across the land.”

Really weird times.

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[–] Tryenjer@lemmy.world 15 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

The guy urgently needs to see a psychiatrist and a psychologist.

https://youtu.be/qqHueZNEzig

The narcissism is rotting your brain away, Pete!

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[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 95 points 5 days ago (15 children)

I assume y’all on the other side of the pond are just learning about Palantir for the first time and that’s why you’re looking for bombshell headlines. I can assure you as someone from Silicon Valley that there is literally no single headline that can possibly convey the pure evil that is Peter Thiel. He literally believes that it is morally and, from his perspective, objectively correct that a few pre-selected technocrat elites (his words) should rule city-states that “compete” with each other. He is currently miserably failing at building a libertarian “eutopia” (his words) out in the desert to the east of San Francisco. He promises it would be done by this year. It hasn’t even started.

He founded PayPal and got mad when he immediately learned that banks exist for a reason. He was such a piece of shit that Elon Musk couldn’t work with him.

[–] Tweak@lemmy.world 20 points 5 days ago (4 children)

Dude, the US has been lagging behind the UK for the last decade. We voted for Brexit because of Cambridge Analytica, then you voted Trump for the first time because of Cambridge Analytica. We voted for Boris in 2019, you got Trump again in 2024. We're probably going to vote in Nigel Farage next and then the US will be like "Hold my beer!"

Palantir is just another symptom of this wider problem.

[–] blurb@sh.itjust.works 24 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)
[–] end_stage_ligma@lemmy.world 14 points 5 days ago

It is an ideal belief system for soi-disant libertarians who realize that, regardless of the principles of freedom being the ostensible foundation of their ideology, they are unwilling to tolerate others' enjoyment of freedom.

pretty much

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[–] zeezee@slrpnk.net 17 points 5 days ago

uhm idk who's not familiar with Thiel but the blueprint of his "utopia" - "The Sovereign Individual" was literally co-written by no other than William Rees-Mogg a conservative house of lords cross-bencher who's also the father of two other conservative MPs that have served in the UK Parliament.

the 2014 reprint of the book has a foreword by Thiel, where he says that it's "the most influential book he had read"

so as usual the theoretical frameworks have been drafted in the heart of empire and implemented in the "land of the free"

[–] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 16 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Wikipedia classifies him as a "thinker". Does your wiki entry classify you as a thinker? Check and mate, lib.

[–] umbraroze@slrpnk.net 10 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Being a "thinker" isn't exactly a high bar. A fish can do it (depending on the definition). I mean I suppose I can think, but I wouldn't brag about it.

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[–] BedSharkPal@lemmy.ca 168 points 6 days ago (6 children)

The fuck is the NHS doing even talking to Palantir? That's nuts.

[–] paraphrand@lemmy.world 45 points 6 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (3 children)

It’s universally true that having more and better information can improve business and efficiency. (This of course has limits, yes.)

I’m sure they were offering data that would help the agency.

Now the ethics, and creepiness? I’m not commenting on that. Palantir is not ethical. They labor under twisted logic.

And every time we mention their name online, we probally get a demerit in their database.

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[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 40 points 6 days ago (3 children)

The UK has been doing some seriously batshit things lately. Obviously we’re not ones to talk but - yeah. It’s sad.

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[–] sigmaklimgrindset@sopuli.xyz 18 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Yeah I'm not surprised about the Thiel/Epstein thing, I'm more surprised that the NHS is considering any sort of private health data handling by PALANTIR of all companies.

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[–] ohulancutash@feddit.uk 12 points 5 days ago (3 children)

NHS England has tens of millions of patients. Most patient records are undigitised and must be couriered when patients move to a new area or when specialist care is required.

It’s also a huge, publicly funded service so big data can be crunched to improve outcomes and efficiencies.

Palantir wanted a big system to use as the testbed for its move into healthcare data systems and offered a low bid.

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[–] Deflated0ne@lemmy.world 24 points 5 days ago

It's 100% safe to assume anyone who even leans in the direction of supporting supply-side economics is a diddler.

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 30 points 5 days ago (2 children)

I'm shocked the rich people setting up automated global fascism also fuck children.

[–] PlasmaTrout@lemmy.wtf 7 points 5 days ago

They fuck everybody, just in different ways :)

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[–] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 67 points 5 days ago

It’s somehow always the ones you suspect.

[–] Bucky@hardpass.lol 31 points 5 days ago

Will be adding this info to http://epsteinsfriends.info/ shortly

[–] LoafedBurrito@lemmy.world 20 points 5 days ago (1 children)

If only people didn't like Pedophiles and billionaires destroying our daily lives....

[–] Akasazh@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Well people did worry about these, but they blamed the other administration and actuallly voted in the pedophiles. Deeply ironic.

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[–] ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online 32 points 5 days ago

Why am I not fucking surprised?

[–] AcidiclyBasicGlitch@sh.itjust.works 79 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Journalists have reported on Thiel’s links to Epstein for some time. In 2019, journalist Whitney Webb reported on the links between Epstein, Israeli tech company Carbyne, and the American intelligence apparatus. In the piece, she reported:

Not long after Epstein’s arrest, and his relationships and finances came under scrutiny, it was revealed that the Israeli company Carbyne911 had received substantial funding from Jeffrey Epstein as well as Epstein’s close associate and former Prime Minister of Israel Ehud Barak, and Silicon Valley venture capitalist and prominent Trump backer Peter Thiel.

Webb added:

Another funder of Carbyne, Peter Thiel, has his own company that, like Carbyne, is set to profit from the Trump administration’s proposed hi-tech solutions to mass shootings. Indeed, after the recent shooting in El Paso, Texas, President Trump — who received political donations from and has been advised by Thiel following his election — asked tech companies to “detect mass shooters before they strike,” a service already perfected by Thiel’s company Palantir, which has developed “pre-crime software” already in use throughout the country. Palantir is also a contractor for the U.S. intelligence community and also has a branch based in Israel.

The latest revelations around Thiel come from the leaked emails of the aforementioned Ehud Barak (former Israeli prime minister). Writing in Reason, Matthew Petti reported:

Epstein invited Barak to come to a meeting with Thiel, cofounder of PayPal and the surveillance contractor Palantir, in May 2014. Although Barak couldn’t make that meeting, Epstein insisted that Barak “spend real time with peter thiel [sic]” and offered to set up a dinner the following month.Epstein

Barak wrote to a different business associate a few days later, without mentioning Epstein’s role, that he and Thiel would have a “first date” and “probably spend it talking just geopolitics” with an unnamed third person. In that email, Barak added that he had met Thiel once before in Davos, Switzerland, but speculated that Thiel “probably doesn’t even recall it.”

Brace Belden of the TrueAnon podcast added that Barak suspected Thiel was “under some drug impact” when they met, according to the emails:

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 32 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Another funder of Carbyne, Peter Thiel, has his own company that, like Carbyne, is set to profit from the Trump administration’s proposed hi-tech solutions to mass shootings.

This willingness to let billionaires offer for-profit tech solutions to social problems is a sickness, and this is the clearest example yet.

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[–] ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk 33 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (4 children)

Its cofounder Peter Thiel is basically a doomsday culter who wants to be the one to herald doomsday for most of the population.

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[–] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 46 points 6 days ago (6 children)

I find this very hard to believe, he's such a good boy and helps grannies cross the street.

I think it's time we send some F-16s to fire missiles at Chinese weather balloons, our real enemies.

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[–] sad_detective_man@leminal.space 36 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (3 children)

as a rule I don't subscribe to theories related to the blood libel myth but if there was a dude to try injecting children's's blood into his blood to prolong his own life, it's probably this psycho. the dude needs a straight jacket and glands removed. not government contracts.

[–] kibiz0r@midwest.social 28 points 5 days ago (2 children)

I mean…

In 2016, various media outlets reported that Mr Thiel had links to the radical life extension startup Ambrosia, with Gawker claiming he "spends $40,00 per quarter to get an infusion of blood from an 18-year-old based on research conducted at Stanford on extending the lives of mice."

These reports cited his investment portfolio, together with a 2009 essay that laid out his philosophical and political beliefs. In it, he wrote that he stood against "the ideology of the inevitability of the death of every individual."

However the blood transfusion claims were never verified and Gawker shut down shortly after following an unrelated lawsuit partly funded by Mr Thiel.

[–] sad_detective_man@leminal.space 16 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (3 children)

bro what the fuck, I was joking. what even is this reality

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[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 21 points 5 days ago

It's always the people you most expect huh

[–] cygnus@lemmy.ca 36 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Damn, I didn't know Jeff had boys too.

[–] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 33 points 6 days ago

Equal opportunity predator

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[–] WanderWisley@lemmy.world 32 points 6 days ago (1 children)

The most evil and corrupt person is linked to the most evil and disgusting person? Say it ain’t so I’m clutching my pearls over here.

This isn't even the first time Thiel has been linked to Epstein, but we never really hear about it for some reason. This isn't even the first time he's been linked this summer.

Ever since that gawker lawsuit, it kinda seems like bad press about Peter Thiel gets buried almost as soon as it's published.

[–] TwoDogsFighting@lemmy.ml 5 points 4 days ago

Shocked I am. Absolutely shocked.

[–] the_q@lemmy.zip 31 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Let's be real, most powerful people are attached to these types of monsters.

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[–] bathing_in_bismuth@sh.itjust.works 12 points 5 days ago (2 children)

And he has the fucking audacity to five a four part lecture about the antichrist. The nerves

[–] tankplanker@lemmy.world 9 points 5 days ago

Does he put forward his case that he is the anti christ? As he sure comes across as someone who would want that. He has always felt like the sort of motherfucker who would read the Stand and identify with Randall Flagg

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[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 1 points 3 days ago

Even worse, Palantir is linked to Peter Thiel.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 7 points 5 days ago

Of course the UK wants to deal with palantir, they want a surveillance state. They have always wanted a surveillance state there

[–] underline960@sh.itjust.works 15 points 6 days ago

I look forward to seeing these people suffer exactly zero consequences in the coming years. /s

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