The more truthy headline "Masses Can No Longer Afford An Evening Out Due To Unreasonable Economy".
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Oh no, the box office!
Keep making actually good movies, Gunn.,everyone. History will thank you for not catering to transient values of capitalism.
What even is this? Gunn literally sold out to the megacorp. He still made a vehicle for capitalism. It’s not like it’s some counter culture or auteur movie.
But new Superman is recycled ass, despite its somewhat humanist values.
Money really just kills creativity because it disincentives risk taking.
Kinda the opposite. No longer able to fall back on DVD sales, Hollywood has become more conservative in what they'll invest in. Matt Damon explains.
But big money killed dvd sales. They wanted more control and a bigger piece of the theater revenue.
Don't know the history, but I quit buying DVDs when The Pirate Bay took off.
Did you watch the video? Hollywood was making bank on DVD sales even if the theater turnout wasn't great. Why would they kill a cash cow?
Yea I watched it. He said some key words that he either doesn’t realize or is purposefully ignoring. “6 months later” and “the 90s”. Studios no longer let the movies in theater breathe or create a sense of FOMO because audiences know it will be available in a very short amount of time for probably cheaper or on a service they already use. Additionally, the 90s were a time of massive prosperity and peace. The movie-seeing public desired those kinds of movies. He’s also not stating that those movies still get made but not at the high budgets of $100m. The streaming services can make that movie for $50m or less and not have to spend that amount of marketing and get a higher cut of the profits.
There are multiple decisions that Hollywood made that has shot them in the foot for short term profits.
They wanted more and didn’t realize the domino effect of pulling movies from theaters early to put it on their platforms. Now there’s less ticket sales and the revenue from their own streaming services isn’t as easy to come by as they assumed. Economy of scale isn’t easy to create and especially at odds with creating your own service just for your niche of movies. I’ll lay some blame on the cinemas themselves for upcharging/upscaling food but that was also because the studios demanded a higher cut of ticket sales.
The in store rental service dried up because of cheap streaming online but also because blockbuster themselves got too greedy. Blu rays are region locked precisely to bilk more money from the disc crowd. There’s no successor to dvd ownership either because online ownership isn’t even real ownership. Hollywood wanted to kill sharing and reselling so they only give out licenses for those purchases. The same crowd that bought DVDs now have their own kids and there was nothing socially (at least in the US) to install that behavior in the younger generations.
Piracy has never been proven to remove sales and there are several cases that show it actually increases it. There have been multiple times in the past where studios have gone more conservative and created larger and larger “safe” productions. It always fails and inevitably some studios will go bankrupt or get sold off. I fear the consolidation we have now will result in serious ramifications when things eventually fall again.
Superheros killed the movie theater, well that and income inequality
Like pumping meth into a dying corpse, we got it to writhe around and look alive for a few years, but the meth was actually kind of bad and contributed to the corpse being a corpse.
Superman did get me to do something I haven’t done in what seems like decades and go watch the same movie twice in theaters.
It’s great.
I’m surprised you were able to see it in the theater. By the time I get off the couch to go see something, the studios have usually already shuffled it off to streaming.
Superman has been in theaters for over a month.
It's STILL in the theaters around here today.
“Over a month” is nothing compared to the lifetime of movies in theaters historically. A movie would have to bomb to have been pulled after only a month.
Well I guess in this case it's nearing 2 months. It came out on July 7.
Which I guess is a large amount of time nowadays. It’s one of the most successful movies this year and still in the top 10 grossing. It should still be in wide release.
Superman was the first movie I went by myself to see in like 5 years. I've taken the kids to a couple in that time period but none just for me.
Maybe an unpopular opinion, but I really didn't like the new Superman. I'm a massive Superman fan and was bitterly disappointed in it. I see lots of people enjoying the new style, so maybe I'm just getting old. But each to their own; the old movies aren't going anywhere.
Not quite the same but I have not watched anything new in awhile at all but I grabbed the digital edition. Got it for the dog and overall disapointed. I mean it was ok but definitely happy about the dog decision as it was the best parts to me. Keep in mind I have pretty much hated everything since the twenty teens so my bar is pretty high. Like LOTR high.
Ideally studios chase the success of KPop Demon Hunters and go after East Asian folklore. I like that trend.
KPDH is basically all the good and wholesome things about anime and I love that it's having a moment right now. While there's a ton of content out there, if you want the most similar thing I've seen, it's 22/7, but that hasn't been translated to English yet. You can only get it with subtitles. And it isn't a movie, it's a series. It's also a band which exists outside the series (and their best music isn't shown in the series). But it's also about an idol group, but one brought together by an unseen force which propels the group into super stardom. No demons in this one, but all eight (!) of them have compelling back stories that are worth watching.
As far as movies though, Hosoda is about to drop a new one early next year (it was originally going to be late this year). Scarlet. It appears to be based on Hamlet, like The Lion King. But with a girl. Cue the whole Kimba debate...
I think studios can be reliably trusted to learn exactly the wrong lesson from KPDH and flood the market with derivative cash-grab slop instead of taking a risk on something novel and different.
There are still enough western stories left untold that there's no need to pillage other cultures for a quick buck. I would love to see more representation of all cultures, myths or not, but I don't think the best way to do that is through churning out movies from Hollywood about them because that's what's in now. There has been more good representation recently, but that's not the takeaway from KPDH in my opinion. Josie and the pussycats is arguably superficially pretty similar, so it's not like the overall concept of girl group saves day through music and friendship hasn't been done in western media, this just had more fighting. I think the takeaway is that people aren't exclusively looking for established universes or known creative teams. Studios are unwilling to take chances on unknowns and it's causing a drought of creativity and originality. There's also a lot of created by committee issues that arise when studios do try something new that ruins the whole thing. I don't want to see a movie where every line was focus tested. I want to see a cohesive film with a point of view.
Something Something beat horse
Last movie I saw in theaters was Nobody 2. After the tickets, one bucket of popcorn, and a few drinks at their bar I was about $120 poorer. It was fun, but it is more like a once a year thing now.
O_o important detail: how many tickets ?
I went with my wife. Probably actually spent quite a bit more but it was divvied up across multiple bills.