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The majority of the sweeping tariffs Donald Trump imposed during his second term face one final litmus test that will determine whether he can continue to levy them – and also whether businesses are eligible for massive refunds.

That potentially dramatic turn in the tariff saga comes after a federal appeals court ruled on Friday that Trump unlawfully leaned on the International Emergency Economic Powers Act (IEEPA) to impose across-the-board duties on countries.

Trump had used those powers to push import tax rates as high as 50% on India and Brazil – and as high as 145% on China earlier this year.

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[–] Mobiuthuselah@mander.xyz 57 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Was it not the end consumer who paid those tariffs?? Frankly, I'd rather it be given back to the business at least, but let's not pretend that they didn't extract it from their customers. End it so that other companies can't as easily gouge based on the idea of tariffs.

[–] hitmyspot@aussie.zone 15 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yes, the business just collected it. However, it would also depend on whether they upped their prices to do so.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)
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[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 23 points 2 days ago (5 children)

Never mind the consumers eh? WE are the ones most directly affected. Businesses lost nothing

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[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 22 points 2 days ago (2 children)

When do Trump and the magats drink the poison koolaid? I’m getting impatient

[–] BussyGyatt@feddit.org 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I don't think that happens until command gets forced into the bunker and the army is defeated.

[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago (2 children)

75-85 million people died before that happened

[–] MajorasTerribleFate@lemmy.zip 5 points 2 days ago

Hrm, 77 million people voted for him...

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[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

Hoping for Trumplethinskin to kick the bucket soon. It'll be a doozy. I can barely contain myself watching the news of him looking decrepit.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 24 points 2 days ago (1 children)

$200 billion / 330 million Americans = $606 each. More or less.

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[–] Alwaysnownevernotme@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago

And the prices? Oh nothing will fundamentally change 😉

[–] _wizard@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago (2 children)

How much of that will be pocketed by his cronies because the rules for payout were vague enough for their random LLC.

[–] Cornelius_Wangenheim@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Lutnick's company has been literally buying up claims to these tariff refunds for pennies on the dollar.

https://www.wired.com/story/cantor-fitzgerald-trump-tariff-refunds/

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[–] DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 days ago

AKA: Trump's standard delaying tactic whenever he gets ruled against.

Appeal everything no matter how ridiculous, just to waste time and allow him to keep doing whatever shitty thing for a few more months/years until all appeal venues are exhausted.

[–] Chainweasel@lemmy.world 21 points 2 days ago

The Businesses didn't pay the tariffs, We did.

[–] DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Seeing that our Judicial branch is limping along, and at least attempting to curtail this march toward totalitarianism, gives me hope.

I'll be pleasantly surprised if this happens.

[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 days ago

He regularly ignores court orders with zero consequences. He has empirically proven that the courts can say whatever they want but he doesn’t have to listen.

[–] pennomi@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago

Around $6000 to my small business. I’m sure the Supreme Court will side with Trump though.

[–] C1pher@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)
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[–] betanumerus@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 day ago

Private sector vs public sector ... in the US ... Okay ...........

[–] rhvg@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago

No worries , you have a supreme court good at ruling by vibe.

[–] cabron_offsets@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Republicans are so fucking stupid. They imposed a stupid tax on all of us.

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[–] hitmyspot@aussie.zone 13 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Increasing the uncertainty is not necessarily beneficial either. Businesses won't want to keep changing their pricing. People don't want to plan their purchases around whether tariffs are likely to change up or down in the future. Their instinct will be to wait.

The tariffs were illegal in how they were implemented but Congress could easily do it and would follow his instructions as they have done before.

It's a shit show, as expected.

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[–] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago

Yeah F that.

American consumers need to get the refund, not the corporations.

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