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[–] wowwoweowza@lemmy.world 8 points 4 hours ago

Kudos. Rarely does an image capture the whole story as well as this one does. Indeed. Of course it makes those of us who remember the good old days feel some grief.

[–] Juice@midwest.social 32 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

"Yeah but how is lemme any different?"

[–] Rekorse@sh.itjust.works 10 points 7 hours ago (3 children)

Because you can't really ban someone from a lemmy instance. The userbase is the type of people to get around rules like that if they want.

[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 7 points 4 hours ago

you can, but let's ignore that for a moment.

so you got banned from a community on lemmy, eh?

just go join another community with 8k less users and has a new post once every four weeks.

I suppose you could post more on that community, right?

oops, looks like the mod there is the same one that banned you with an alt on a different instance. you're banned here as well.

lemmy is isn't immune to the corruption on Reddit because it's a different platform. it's corruptible because the users are all from Reddit.

humans are trash, that's why we need to shift how moderation functions online.

[–] MourningDove@lemmy.zip 3 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

You absolutely can ban a user from an lemmy instance.

[–] AcidiclyBasicGlitch@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

I actually got banned from this community on my old lemm.ee account under the same username. So I don't make actual posts here. Idk if I'm even technically supposed to be commenting, so 🤫

Even so, Lemmy is nothing like what Reddit has become. Any platform is susceptible, but Reddit is now controlled by people who are out to prove a Fred Phelps like point about free speech. If you can't say whatever you want, whenever you want, to anyone you want, go out of your way to ruin it for everybody and die miserable and alone.

Even if that does end up happening here, somebody else will just build back something new and a little better to replace it.

Fascists complained for decades about being censored on the internet and in that time what did they actually do? Did they actually build their own alternatives that anybody wanted to use, or did they just scheme and claw their way to the top to take over what somebody else made and force what they wanted on to everyone?

It's true, they've basically made just about every popular internet platform unuseable in like 9 months, but that has also driven more people to just seek alternatives, and other people to focus on building them or making what already exists more user friendly. So when people just stop using that garbage, what happens to all those paid sponsors? Do they just keep paying to advertise to no one?

The dead internet theory just kind of assumes that people will want to keep using these platforms to witness bots argue instead of interacting with other people, but I can't even really scroll through Reddit or Substack anymore bc I know there's better content somewhere else that isn't being controlled to keep a narrative going.

I tried to look for a very specific topic on YouTube yesterday, and got so frustrated with only having an endless stream of short clips of influencers instead of the one thing that I actually wanted, that I ended up just making an account on peertube. There's not much content on there (yet), but the small amount that is there is sooo much more interesting than 99% of the garbage being force fed by YouTube.

I'm pretty sure that's actually how capitalism is supposed to work when a "free market" isn't being completely controlled by oligarchs. Like if this product sucks, and this other product is available and better, why would I keep using the shitty product unless somebody is tightly controlling the market and not allowing any competition?

I was talking to somebody yesterday about how being forced to switch to open source platforms has actually made me somewhat more optimistic for the future in general. Once somebody destroys something you love, it's just gone. It sucks, but there's a good chance you'll probably never get back what was destroyed. You can't go home again, but you can always try to rebuild something new, and make it a little better than before.

[–] Schadrach@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 30 minutes ago

Did they actually build their own alternatives that anybody wanted to use,

Right wingers functionally excluded from major platforms more or less until Musk bought Twitter actually did create their own spaces. Several of which got made functionally inaccessible from mobile devices, or removed from search engines or otherwise actively prevented from growing organically, many of them eventually being quietly put back after any buzz around them had died down. Think Gab, Parler, various .win sites that are reddit-like, etc.

Hell, at one point the largest Mastodon instance was literally one such space that had had it's own app banned from the app stores for being an uncensored far right space, and then several of the major general Mastodon clients made their clients refuse to connect to that specific instance at the client level as well. If you've ever seen a Mastodon client on say the Play store with negative reviews saying that it couldn't connect to the largest instance, that's because at the time the largest Mastodon instance was technically Gab.

[–] Snowpix@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 hours ago

Til they come back with hundreds of alts because being banned was such an offense to them.

[–] Juice@midwest.social 5 points 7 hours ago

Yeah, Lemmy is different, reddit is hell. Lemmy is a little irritating, but Reddit is full of cops and fascists

[–] abbiistabbii@lemmy.blahaj.zone 38 points 12 hours ago (6 children)

Want to know what's fucked? People on Reddit are openly advocating for Concentration Camps and the Mods have ID gated subs like alcoholics anonymous but if I bring up things like the leader of a sitting political party not only saying we should fund the Taliban with tax payers money but presenting it as a flagship policy for this party, I get my comment removed and my account shadow banned.

That's where we are on Reddit right now.

[–] hansolo@lemmy.today 10 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Their Contributor Quality Score is basically the social media equivalent of a Social Credit Score. Not like karma, it's a whole other system that demands you produce content for them or get shadow banned. It's bonkers.

[–] abbiistabbii@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 7 hours ago

Jesus that's Dystopian.

[–] SippyCup@feddit.nl 6 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

I mean it wouldn't be the FIRST time an inexplicably beloved and dementia ridden Republican has funded the Taliban.

[–] abbiistabbii@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 7 hours ago

I was referring to the UK. IIRC Farage is very much a monarchist.

[–] NotANumber@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (1 children)

Subs are ID gated because of laws like the Online Safety Act in the UK. Yes I had to contact my MP about that. The government apparently care more about concerned moms than they do about the opinion of actual technical people or freedom of speech.

[–] abbiistabbii@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

The government apparently care more about concerned moms than they about the opinion of actual technical people or freedom of speech.

You are the first person I have actually encountered in any discussion of the OSA who mention "concerned parents" because I don't think they're getting enough blame for what the OSA has done. Like they're constantly either running articles like "The OSA would've saved my child's life" or "The OSA doesn't go far enough" and they have been the the crux of the whole shitshow from day one.

Like we know Data Collectors, Social Authoritarians, and Government Spies have been the people doing most of the leg work but I don't think it would have passed if not for the years of "think of the children". Even the parents of Brianna Ghey, the murdered transgender teen, is saying that "if we had the OSA, my child would be alive", ignoring the fact the mainstream press and the government itself played a bigger role in her death than the internet ever did. The current fucking prime minister MOCKED TRANSGENDER PEOPLE in front of Brianna's father along with the then Prime Minister Rishi Sunak.

[–] NotANumber@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 4 hours ago

Yeah it's a shitshow. Honestly makes me glad I don't have kids. I don't want to think about the ridiculous opinions I might collect just by being a parent. It's like how parents who used to sniff lines and shag 9s suddenly want their teenagers to be celibate and not even touch cannabis. It's honestly so bizarre. Like if having kids makes you this crazy you probably shouldn't have them.

[–] beejboytyson@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago

Should? We've been funding al queada....

[–] TimewornTraveler@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 7 hours ago (3 children)

AA is Id gated? what?? I'm pretty sure I've just posted on that subreddit within the last month and id never give it my id. not to mention it's fucking anonymous.

I straight up don't believe you

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[–] CallMeAnAI@lemmy.world 7 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

I'm not sure how that's different at all to Lemmy. This place regularly hands out bans and removes shit all the time.

[–] QuoVadisHomines@sh.itjust.works 5 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (4 children)

The difference is here it is actually a human and you can reason with them. Reddit banned me because I reported CSAM being sold on the site too often and made too much if a stink about this.

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[–] Tropic420@lemmy.world 12 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

And you can Look Up everything in the Mod log and complain about the ban on other instances. Or even host your own instance.

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[–] Nunar@lemmy.world 18 points 14 hours ago (3 children)

Why is Reddit used for anything but porn these days?

[–] ngwoo@lemmy.world 16 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (1 children)

It's where people are. If you want to have any commercial success on the internet you almost need a presence on places like Reddit and Twitter

[–] jaschen306@sh.itjust.works 6 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

You don't need quantity. Just quality.

[–] Soleos@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

Sometimes quantity is a quality.

[–] sunflowercowboy@feddit.org 1 points 3 hours ago

Not really, that's more a human perception. However in modern media strategies, quantity is always better. Getting a foothold in some form of audiences is more crucial than the content.

Like genuinely this is why tiktok and short form videos invaded the internet space rapidly. Vine was for entertainment and creative outlets but this modern interpretation is more about reach.

Cast a net in a specific spot to capture the largest fish or cast multiple nets at multiple spots to catch any fish. One has better odds of outsurviving the competitors. Each a roll of the dice in hopes of virality.

Any of those nets could be the big fish, even if a smaller chance.

Once you are fed and once you have your audience, you will appreciate quality. That does not mean your audience will and it is often the disheartening part of art. Your quality will not be understood but by those of the same path, it often doesn't inspire or teach and instead just becomes additive.

[–] hypnicjerk@lemmy.world 6 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

for many video games it's the primary or even only place the devs communicate

[–] hypnicjerk@lemmy.world 8 points 11 hours ago

either that or twitter which is frankly an even worse cesspit

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[–] RedFrank24@lemmy.world 12 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

Is it all that much different to Lemmy instances?

[–] nexguy@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago

100% different since one company owns all of reddit. No one owns all of lemmy.

[–] NikkiDimes@lemmy.world 28 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

At least on Lemmy I can go create my own instance and not have corpo mods forced into it and me forcefully removed. I'd much rather have that with 4 other members than a massive community I risk being ousted from for dumb bullshit any day

[–] Bennyboybumberchums@lemmy.world 23 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

A short video on the subject:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjUcfSVuU1A

Talks about ex Mods that have since either been defeated, or have just changed their names. "Cyxie", "Gallowboob", "Merari01", "Siouxsie_siousv2" and "Awkwardtheturtle".

Reddit post talking about Cyxie's account being deleted:

https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/gk569a/cyxie_account_gone/

Fuck reddit.

[–] SippyCup@feddit.nl 7 points 8 hours ago

Gallowboob being a mod in retrospect makes a lot of sense. Fucker was probably taking content, reposting it and deleting the original constantly.

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