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[–] Godric@lemmy.world 42 points 6 days ago (1 children)
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[–] ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.works 35 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Men and women are, on average, different enough that talking about those differences can be useful. However, there is no obligation to act like the average member of one's sex.

[–] ccunning@lemmy.world 5 points 6 days ago (2 children)

…or to assume that you’re one of “the bad ones” when others make generalizations

[–] KombatWombat@lemmy.world 22 points 6 days ago (1 children)

When you start making people feel the need to defend themselves you've probably gone overboard on the generalization.

[–] TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

When you start making people feel the need to defend themselves you’ve probably gone overboard on the generalization.

only if that generalization isn't against men and 'majority' groups. if you wanna bash white people, men, heterosexuality, etc. people pretty much give you free reign. especially in 'left' leaning spaces.

[–] jsomae@lemmy.ml 3 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

...or to make generalizations in the first place.

Look, if somebody says "ugh, women are so..." I'm going to assume they're talking about me, if they don't qualify with "some women"

[–] Beacon@fedia.io 16 points 6 days ago (1 children)
[–] allo@sh.itjust.works 6 points 6 days ago (1 children)
[–] Nurse_Robot@lemmy.world 9 points 6 days ago (1 children)
[–] Sonotsugipaa@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Is so exactely this right?

[–] untorquer@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Exactly right, so this is.

[–] Mac@mander.xyz 5 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

So right, this is—exactly.

Note:

I'm just here to collect my downvote.

[–] Little8Lost@lemmy.world 8 points 6 days ago (3 children)

But men and woman are from earth i think

[–] lime@feddit.nu 12 points 6 days ago
[–] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 5 days ago

men and women are both from the planet Y'slub-ilth in the gamma quadrant, however men arrived ~7 years later.

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[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 8 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Insisting that the puppets making them are real

You mean the hands?

[–] OrteilGenou@lemmy.world 10 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Was this whole post just an elaborate shot at shadow puppeteers?

[–] underscores@lemmy.zip 6 points 6 days ago (4 children)

Men and Women are different strictly because of cultural reasons. many of which that are inherited from religious beliefs and practices.

At the core there's not that much difference except the hormonal stuff.

[–] jsomae@lemmy.ml 1 points 4 days ago

how do you know that it's purely cultural? Do you have a source for this?

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[–] JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago

I thought it was men that had the y.

[–] Angelusz@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Hey now, are we getting real, on the interwebs!? Ludicrous!

Edit: Oh and don't forget the people that identify as other

[–] Mongostein@lemmy.ca 5 points 6 days ago (1 children)

People think X is good and Y is bad?

[–] jsomae@lemmy.ml 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

people think XX and XY are good bad.

[–] Mongostein@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 days ago

First I’m hearing of it 🤷‍♂️

[–] laranis@lemmy.zip 4 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Sorry, maybe I'm tired but I'm not getting the shadow puppet allegory. Maybe we thought the shadows were real, like you thought the differences between the sexes were real. Okay, got it. But convinced the puppets making them are real? The puppets are real, right? Unless the metaphor is that both shadows and puppets are not real people and their anthropomorphism is all in your head? So both the battle of the sexes and the woke-ism are both constructs we should recognize as such?

Ok, think I worked it out. Thanks for coming.

[–] TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

there is a difference between appearance, and reality.

that's what it's about.

and yes, battle of the sexes is very much appearance vs reality. people want to believe in the mythology they tell each other about 'men' and 'women'. not the fact that we are mostly the same apart from our sex organs and some hormonal chemistry. there are differences, but they aren't as titanic as people want to believe.

[–] TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world -1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

all i know is that men and women both hate it if you don't treat them like 'men' and 'women'.

people generally enjoy sexism, especially if it is beneficial to them.

[–] jsomae@lemmy.ml 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I don't believe this is true.

[–] TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] jsomae@lemmy.ml 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

All I know is that people generally hate it when you make inferences about them based on their demographic.

[–] TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.world 0 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

yeah and? generally those inferences are true. most of us are in the bell curve.

what i find that people really hate, is they make a inference about you, you tell them they are wrong, and they tell you to go fuck yourself.

I get that a lot. because i'm not a part of the bell curve and it really pisses people off that i don't fit the stereotype they have of me.

but the vast majority of people do fall in that bell curve, based on sex, race, class, education, whatever. most of us are average. but that tends to offend people's egos. they all want to think they are exceptional. i live in a city full of wealthy people who all want to tell you how poor and broke they are. it's hilarious. very very few of them understand that they are wealthy, because they are so jealous of the neighbor who has a slightly better car/apartment/lifestyle.

and they do with this sex, race, and whatever else too. 'if only i was taller' 'if only i was white' 'if only i was a man' etc. Met so many female doctors who are RIPSHIT at the world because they think they'd be making 550K instead of 520K if they had a penis. and they are probably right. They'd also probably make 550K if they were a few inches taller. But none of them can seem to grasp the fact they 30K is not even an amount of money that would have any measurable impact on their life.

[–] jsomae@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 days ago

The bell-curve is extremely high dimensional. This means that most people are outside 2 stdevs on at least one axis.

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