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what messaging apps do you use? (programming.dev)

submitted 2 years ago by jiminside@programming.dev to c/asklemmy@lemmy.ml

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Hi friends,

I'm new to Lemmy but I think I like where it is heading in general. I would like to ask, do you have any specific apps used for ?

As a community that seems more focused on decentralized platforms, I thought this could spike up an interesting discussion

I have been using mainly Viber and FB messenger. I did try to convince friends and family to move over to simpleXchat, as it seems the most privacy focused alternative I have found, but basically failed.

I would love to hear your input!

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[–] allforthebest@infosec.pub 4 points 2 years ago

The most secure app I know is SimpleX. It is like Matrix but without an identifier, so you really interacting only with people you want. No one can reach you unless you gave him a link to connect to you.

Two different people cannot be ensured they are talking to the same person since there is no identifier they can compare to.

[–] heeplr@feddit.de 3 points 2 years ago

Delta Chat is awesome encrypted/secure messaging via imap and thus compatible with anyone who has an email address.

Conversations is an excellent XMPP client.

[–] Arcaneslime@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago

XMPP (with omemeo) is the classic (and also what FB messenger uses behind the scenes, without omemo), Matrix is the new kid on the block taking over. Both are decentralized sorta like the fediverse (but separate from said fediverse.)

Used to use Signal, but they're removing SMS support so everyone might as well switch to matrix. Wickr was bought by amazon (and they say they won't ruin it, riiiight), so that's out. Idk enough about briar or session, and telegram isn't as secure as people seem to think.

[–] terulo@lemmy.eco.br 2 points 2 years ago

WhatsApp, because in my circle of friends and family there's no other way to use it, Matrix for groups and I have Signal installed for the future, who knows?

[–] pumpkin@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I use SMS and Matrix. I'd love to see something like Briar become more popular, or maybe XMPP make a resurgence as it's been a great federated chat protocol for a long while.

[–] amanneedsamaid@sopuli.xyz 2 points 2 years ago

I would use Briar if it had an iOS app, i dont consider any messenger that is android-only a real option for my main messenger.

[–] coldhotman@nrsk.no 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

[–] KLISHDFSDF@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Does FluffyChat support encrypted rooms/chats now? Last I tried it didn't and was the reason I went back to Element.

[–] coldhotman@nrsk.no 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

[–] Lewistrick@feddit.nl 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Whatsapp is the norm here so I begrudgingly use that. Wish more people were on Signal, Matrix or Telegram.

[–] CAPSLOCKFTW@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

You can apparently bridge Whatsapp and Matrix. I have looked into it for a few evenings but got nothing running despite having some experience with self hosting stuff. It was a while ago though.

[–] bigbox@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

Signal is my go to. Some of my friends refuse to download it, so I just text them. I'll use iMessage on iOS and Google Messages on Android. But if I can use Signal, I will

[–] CanOpener@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 years ago

For your friends and family, Signal is probably the best. It's simple to use and set up, unlike SimpleX which some might have trouble with. For people who refuse to switch, iMessage.

[–] JustADirtyLurker@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

I tried to migrate friends and family to Signal a couple of years back. Only managed with 3 people :/.

Unfortunately here (Italy), WhatsApp is too much widespread as reach out method now. Especially for businesses, from restaurants to, say, the family doctor.

[–] Kovu@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Signal

[+] somedaysoon@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

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[–] krash@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I belive the reason why SMS was dropped was because of the unreliable interaction between two endpoints: If you're communicating with a contact over RCS in Google messages, and you'd send them a message over signal- they'd receive an SMS. But throttling reply would be over RCS and signal wouldn't be able to display that since there isn't an open API for signal to interact with RCS messages. So the whole reason to drop SMS support was due to inconsistencies of how messages in androids would be handled.

[–] masterspace@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Basically, Signal could have implemented RCS messaging themselves, making them the de facto iMessage replacement on Android, but they chose not to so that their devs could instead spend their time building NFTs into their platform or whatever the next shiny bauble is.

I still use Signal for lack of a credible alternative but dropping SMS support in favour of NFTs and Stories was fucking dumb. They need to focus on being the best messaging platform first, then focus on expanding into other markets and functionality.

[–] mintiefresh@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 years ago

I wish more people in my life would use Signal but I've given up on converting people from WhatsApp.

I pretty much just use everything. my messaging folder has Signal, Telegram, WhatsApp, Discord, SMS, etc lol.

[–] archchan@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

Signal. I refuse to use whatsapp even though that's what most people I know use.

[–] vegetarian_pacemaker@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

unfortunately it is whatsapp.. Had everyone move to signal, but it didn't last :(

[–] Rain@lm.melonbread.dev 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Elements (Matrix) as much as much as possible. I bridge a lot services through it. Though Signal would be the second most.

[–] Jomn@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

I mainly use Signal, but sometimes have to fall back to SMS for people that aren't on Signal. I also have matrix accounts, but I never really use them since I don't have anyone among my friends and family that uses matrix.

[–] Dazawassa@programming.dev 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I'm only Discord at this point. Over time I've just wanted to stay within a select few platforms for mental health and security. I would move to Matrix but most people I know are on Discord. But I still have an account there incase anyone wants to contact me.

[–] scott@lem.free.as 1 points 2 years ago

Setup Matrix and add a bridge for Discord.

[–] frozen@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz -1 points 2 years ago

Telegram almost exclusively, SMS for stubborn family, and Discord for stubborn communities that won't use something better.

[–] catastrophicblues@lemmy.ca -1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Telegram almost exclusively. I love thé sheer number of features it offers and pay for Premium.

[–] jiminside@programming.dev 1 points 2 years ago

Telegram is feature-richh for sure. In my country it does not have a large audience for some reason