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[–] CommieBeetle@lemmygrad.ml 27 points 1 week ago (4 children)

I'm pretty sure it will be blamed on leftists, even if the shooter wasn't one. Then, it will be invoked to increase attacks and repression on anything resembling a left position. This just shows how bad things are gonna get in the US. Sets the precedent to unseen levels of violence and the coming civil war. Good luck.

[–] warm@kbin.earth 3 points 6 days ago

It's like the guy who attempted to kill Trump, the second it was found out he was Republican, they quickly swept that whole thing under the rug.

[–] bennieandthez@lemmygrad.ml 18 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

it was innevitable imo, any militant leftists in the US should be strapped since yesterday. the political tension in the US, the most weaponized society on earth, was not going dissipate away peacefully.

[–] redchert@lemmygrad.ml 16 points 1 week ago

I’m pretty sure it will be blamed on leftists

Musk already did.

[–] nailingjello@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Seems that the shooter was apprehended, so hopefully we can get an answer one way or the other.

[–] CommieBeetle@lemmygrad.ml 13 points 1 week ago

It won't matter tho. Whatever the answer, it will just stoke the fires. The US is a powder keg and everyone has a lighter just watching it with the eyes of a drug addict in front of a heroin syringe.

[–] REEEEvolution@lemmygrad.ml 26 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

crab-dance

Of course his death will be instumentalized to crack down on everything progressive in the US. Because we can't have something good.

[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 21 points 1 week ago

Visible repression is what's driving people to violence, so more repression is only going to create an even more volatile situation.

[–] lemmyseizethemeans@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I'm just looking at the sea of red hats in the audience that probably all have firearms

[–] AnarchoBolshevik@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 1 week ago

That is the only aspect of this homicide that worries me: the upper classes shall very probably use it as an excuse to further suppress their opposition. Otherwise, I don’t care that somebody murdered Charlie Kirk. He was a waste of space.

[–] bunbun@lemmygrad.ml 22 points 1 week ago

He was just announced dead. Rest in piss.

[–] SpaceDogs@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Violence begets violence.

Edit for clarification: Charlie Kirk was a very violent man, thus violence begets violence, he reaped what he sowed.

[–] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 16 points 1 week ago

The Us finds itself in an incredibly volatile situation because significant segments of the population in US no longer believe that the government has their best interest at heart, and that's a measure of how far the collapse has progressed. The underlying cause for this mistrust is the decline of material conditions over the past several decades. However, most people in US lack the political or economic education to understand what's happening leading to public lashing out in random and irrational ways. People understand that they're being hurt, but they don't understand who is responsible or why it's happening.

The mainstream is now split between democrats and republicans, with each camp having a different vision for the country, and blaming other for all the ills in the country. This creates a political climate that's ripe for opportunists to game leading to further deterioration of living conditions. The country ends up in a worse state after each successive election cycle, and the sectarian tensions continue to become more prominent. Violent outbreaks are starting to happen, and I expect these will only get worse going forward.

Furthermore, the effects of the collapse are not evenly distributed. While many working class people experience significant effects personally, nothing has really changed for the policy makers. This creates a lag between problems occurring and the leadership becoming aware of them. Thus things have to degrade quite significantly before people in power become aware of the severity of the problem.

[–] AnarchoBolshevik@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 1 week ago
[–] luchuan@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 1 week ago

No way he lives right? I'm surprised a death hasn't been announced yet

[–] bennieandthez@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Didn't he have a Tucker-esque turn recently?

[–] CommieBeetle@lemmygrad.ml 12 points 1 week ago (2 children)

He's been on Myrotvorets for some time. Some people close to him say he was afraid Israel would kill him. There's a non zero chance that this is a blimp of the american vassals interfering in its domestic politics for one reason or another. Not a good sign.

[–] bennieandthez@lemmygrad.ml 12 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

It's not out of the question tbh, shooter hasn't been caught and the way Kirk got whacked makes me think the shooter was military trained, ain't no way a regular civilian pulls off a one shot kill assassination. still much more likely to have been whacked by someone that just hated his fascist rhetoric.

Smells like Israeli sniper

[–] lemmyseizethemeans@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Any source for the Israel link? Would love more information on that

[–] CommieBeetle@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 1 week ago

It is mostly the weirdos on the right like Harrison Smith saying it, tho. Again, they are all rumors and I don't think it matters tbh. But they tend to be zionists, so I don't even understand what's up with that. Meanwhile, zionists are already blaming the pro Palestine people.

[–] sallyl_mao@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 1 week ago