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[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 hours ago

Guy was in his 70s, in a region of GTA famous for high insurance claims. Very likely he hit the gas on his Canyonero instead of the brake and the GTA loves to buy overweight, overpowered trucks.

[–] tamal3@lemmy.world 6 points 10 hours ago

If only we lived in countries that allowed people to age gracefully and with support. Car dependency is awful in so many ways, and while I'm not denying culpability, many of our old people are driving long past when they should because the alternatives are basiclly homebound and bleak.

[–] Showroom7561@lemmy.ca 33 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

"We are still determining the sequence of events, however information right now has led us to determine that this was not a deliberate act," Const. Kevin Nebrija told reporters near the scene.

That's the problem, isn't it? Drivers not deliberately trying to kill people with their vehicles, yet it happens over and over and over and over again.

[–] SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 2 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

it's basically because of badly designed infrastructure. Something like 40 cars per year drive into a building in the Greater Toronto Area. This was bound to happen when you put a daycare next to a 4 lane stroad. Why would you even do that, not only is it unsafe it is super bad for the health of those children. And if you look at the building on google maps you basically see zero protections against car crashes, no bollards or concrete planters and the playground is on the side of the road instead of on the other side of the building. No the safe side is for the parking lot. Truly designed by morons. Even if someone is safe driver, if they get sideswiped they could careen straight towards the playground.

[–] Showroom7561@lemmy.ca 1 points 5 hours ago

If it's not a building, it's a bus stop shelter, or a light/power pole, or a group of pedestrians, or cyclists, or e-scooter riders...

We can only design infrastructure to be safe up to a certain extent, but we really need to be getting people out of cars.

Car-dependent cities and public safety are in conflict with each other, so local and provincial governments really need to decide which is the priority. You really can't have both.

[–] SL3wvmnas@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 10 hours ago

Yeah and I bet you 10 cents the police will never ever question if the driver took meds forbidding him to operate heavy machinery. Or make a blood test in that direction.

[–] SlartyBartFast@sh.itjust.works 20 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

That's fucked up. One of the kids died, 18 months old. What the fuck

[–] Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca 9 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Pure tragedy. A man in his 70's has to live with some scarring truth.

Every old person struggles with when it's time to give up driving. Let this be a reminder to err on the side of caution.

[–] SL3wvmnas@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (3 children)

This is not a tragedy. A man in his 70s chose to drive a huge Hyundai SUV. Ignoring the danger this huge vehicle poses. A man in his 70s drove a vehicle with faster acceleration than a Porsche Taycan 4S, Lucid Air Touring and BMW i7 M70 xDrive (0 to 100 km/h in 3.4 seconds depending on model)

But.

A man in his seventies will never be tested for drugs forbidding him to operate heavy machinery.

Bonus Rabbit Hole: "IONiQ HDA Phantom Acceleration" ....

[–] Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 hours ago

A man in his 70s chose to drive a huge Hyundai SUV.

It's a tragedy. He didn't choose to drive it into a daycare. From all appearances and the police statement, it was an accident. A smaller car can still plough through building walls.

[–] FireRetardant@lemmy.world 3 points 8 hours ago

Hard to judge the driver for the size when thats the average and normalized size of a north american automobile. He was just buying in the market conditions and arms race attitude of large vehicles we exist in. We need to adress that through regulation (like reassessing CAFE standards) more so than individual choices. The hard part there is its american policy that has impacted the size of canadian vehicles.

[–] whoisearth@lemmy.ca 6 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Some food for thought. My parents are old. My dad is 82. Up until 2 weeks ago he was driving with no issues. His heart is now giving out and he had a spell where he went unconscious when driving and drove into a bean field with my mum.

The point is sometimes shit happens and no one can predict when it will.

Can my dad drive now? No. If he does the barriers have increased drastically and involve sign off from a cardiologist as just one thing.

It's possible there was nothing flagging this man in his 70s as being at risk to drive. Maybe, just maybe, all the doctors and pharmacists know more than you and something unexpected happened.

[–] SL3wvmnas@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (1 children)

Ah yes. There too were issues when my parents got old. I feel you.

Here is what they did: When they were in their 60s and saw their reaction time decline, they purposefully got the smallest, lightest car with the best (front) visibility and lowest tier of motor they could find. They knew shit would happen and acted accordingly. They did not purposefully buy a >2000kg murder weapon with an acceleration of 3.4 to 5.1 seconds from 0 to 100.

I'm sorry this happened to your dad.

[–] whoisearth@lemmy.ca 3 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

My parents also drive a small car. What you're advocating for is a change to the laws. My family is from rural Ontario. Many people my parents age drive pickup trusts to tend to their farms

I may agree with you but what you're asking for is a reclassification of vehicles to further restrict older drivers. Right now the law states they are free to drive what they want and on that item alone you're coming across like someone who knows better and demonizing people for their choices.

Again you may not be wrong but the law and society does not currently agree with you. This gives the same energy as demonizing people who get plastic surgery because they want it.

[–] dustyData@lemmy.world 13 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

The building was clearly not wearing high visibility clothing.

/s

What a tragedy. Just to keep filling big oil's pockets.

[–] SL3wvmnas@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (1 children)

Not even - the yahoo report I linked above described the vehicle as a Hyundai fully electric SUV.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 2 points 4 hours ago

Those things are overweight and massively overpowered.