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It's still not definitively confirmed that the guy was a right winger, his family might have been MAGA but the guy himself could have very possibly been radicalized recently by the endless ragebait "anti-fascist" posts and did the deed as a result. It would explain the casings at the very least.
From what I've seen, the entire assumption that the guy was a rightoid comes from the fact that his family is MAGA and that's pretty much it.
He part of a neo nazi group who thought Kirk wasn't conservative enough. The group also had a beef with Kirk followers and himself. It was one right wing gang killing opposing member of another right wing gang. Kirk was killed in a gang hit.
So... Is there any chance this and the Colorado school shooting are connected? Strikes me as very odd that there is very little information being dropped on that one, except for the fact that the 16-year-old was radicalized by an online "white supremacist" group.
What if these were synchronized for a reason and both were groypers?
Also, why is there no wikipedia entry for that at all?
Interesting until they had caught the killer I had never heard of that group or that Nick Fetuses or however you spell his last name. Of course I don't go out of my way to see what neo nazi groups there are.
I've heard of Fetus no doubt. But not the term Groyper. It's like the next stage of radicalization after inceldom or something.
Loneliness is indeed an epidemic and these kids get caught up in such fucked up things in groups that prey on the instinct of seeking community.
The last 2 elections he did not vote. My guess is that he did not wanted to vote democrats but Trump was too extreme for him. But that's just my guess.
Do you think overall statistics might be swayed by all this right on right violence?
The US government just removed the DOJ statistics webpage showing right wing violence was 7x worse than left wing violence. You can deduce the rest.
Here’s an archival. https://web.archive.org/web/20250731061848/https://nij.ojp.gov/topics/articles/what-nij-research-tells-us-about-domestic-terrorism
Wouldn’t matter. The Right doesn’t read numbers. They operate exclusively on feels.
It’s all the gangs and trains!
Still seeking confirmation on the Goyper narrative.
I hate to be that guy, but if we just accept this narrative without proof, we are only slightly better than the people who peddled the minority narrative.
Somewhat on/off-topic.
It's usually irrelevant to focus on the "competition".
In business, it makes no sense to focus on the 1% of the population who buys your competitors products instead of yours, because you're not addressing the 98% who is not buying either.
The same is true about US politics: The majority are not left or right; They are not voting at all. Claiming that the shooter is either side will be wrong more often than it is true, because there's only 25% chance of guessing it.
Who even knows if it's politically motivated? 4 children were shot at a school simultaneously as the Krik shooting. Nobody asked about the political reasons for that.
i can't confirm the groyper stuff, but i've reached out through channels and confirmed the mormon shit
Still seeking confirmation on the Goyper narrative.
I don't know who started this, but groypers are lazy sacks of pasty bullshit and not a political radicalization group, they're 4-channers too lazy to have the same level of conviction and principles as actual nazis. Okay so they hated Kirk, so did a lot of people.
I remember some self-described groypers going to that Charlottesville "unite the right" nazi rally and they were literally fat white kids who started crying when actual violence broke out.
I don't like giving attention whores the attention they desperately want and can't fathom why so many people are attaching to this stunt.
All of them?
That seems like something that you cannot possibly know.
Anecdotally, you saw some “fat white kids” crying, that’s not evidence of anybody’s behavior but their own.
I agree that we don’t know if he is a groyper, but implying that the group isn’t capable of containing of containing violent individuals is a very naive viewpoint.
Sure, it's possible, but it's absurd to pick one group out of everyone online who could also fit that bill and start spreading it online, especially when said group is literally a group of trolls.
People really, really want to blame/credit some group because it's more material, more content, more "something happening" and it's dumb because there's no evidence released, no manifesto, nothing reliable and there is a TIDAL WAVE of bullshit being circulated right now. Best to be quiet and wait and read, even then we'll never know everything.
There is way too much money on the side of spreading disinformation to know much of what is true. The Groyper angle is possible, but the evidence is thin at best. It doesn’t take much for people to ignore the scarcity of evidence if the story sounds better to them.
I just meant that online groups contains all kinds of people, and there is no reason to believe that that particular group is free of radical or violent individuals.
Your effective confirmation is Fuentes is panicking.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15093321/Nick-Fuentes-Charlie-Kirk-assassination.html
... Was Robinson 100% a groyper?
Well, I don't know either way with 100% certainty.
But also we live in a sort of series of pocket universes, competing hyperrealities of 'truth'.
Sure, hold yourself to higher truth standards, encourage it... but do not expect others to.
/pol/ is coping hard right now lol
Honestly, it's starting to feel like only the really good looking shooters get our support.
They were attacking Black people even after the shooter's family turned him in.
They don't need an excuse.
Bomb threat got called into the Dem HQ in DC, too.
And a bunch of HBCUs.
Oh and there was another school shooting on the same day, I think at least 3 dead/wounded.. flags went half mast in Colorado not for that, but for Kirk.
Kids weren't even mentioned.
Bomb threat got called into the Dem HQ in DC, too.
There were bomb threats to democrat lawmakers across the country, Oregon, Minnesota (or Michigan), New Mexico
Fucking hell, I'd only just seen the reports about Oregon.
They love any opportunity to be vile, just so happens they figured they can just be vile all the time.
Anger is a hell of a drug.
It gets the heart pumping and gives you great focus.
No, they only argue in bad faith. Debating them or applying any kind of logical consistency to their actions or arguments is falling right into their trap because then they suck up all your energy until you're too tired to do anything about it anymore.
So much for the tolerant right!
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