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[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 20 points 1 day ago (1 children)

My 11-month old is an absolute saint when we're out and about, then a horrifying tornado of destruction when he's at home. I suspect a lot of it is just boredom, but its hard to tell because... 11-mo olds aren't great at verbalizing their discontent.

As he gets older and he starts losing that starstruck look of wonderment at the mall or a new restaurant or wherever, I suspect he'll be harder to control. But he's also incredibly clever, athletic, and curious. I don't want to discourage any of this just to make parenting a bit easier in the short term.

Can't fucking imagine actually hitting him. I know what that did to me after the rare few times my mom did it. I still can't bring myself to forgive her 30 years later. And there's no way I want my son thinking of me that way.

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[–] kandoh@reddthat.com -1 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Every child i encounter is extremely well behaved

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[–] shawn1122@sh.itjust.works 55 points 1 day ago (11 children)

There is essentially universal agreement in the field of child psychology that "beating" your child is the wrong approach.

I've yet to meet a parent that completely ignores their child in a public venue. In many cultures children are considered to be a part of society / community and so they are given some autonomy to discover the world with their peers. Hyper individualistic Western society is really the odd one out here and Western cultures are the only ones where I've seen this take expressed openly. Conclude from that what you will.

[–] sploosh@lemmy.world 58 points 1 day ago (14 children)

A few weeks ago my wife and I were getting breakfast at a local bakery. Inside, a dad had decided that it did not matter that his small child was running around, screaming at the top of his lungs. The little gremlin started trying to steal pastries off other people's tables and dad stiff didn't do anything until the staff announced loudly that all unattended children would be reported to CPS.

That kid didn't need a beating, but that dad sure did.

[–] shawn1122@sh.itjust.works 17 points 1 day ago

Agreed, that's unacceptable.

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[–] HalfSalesman@lemmy.world 21 points 1 day ago (4 children)

I don't mind rambunctious children, as long as they aren't hurting anyone, doing ear piercing screaming, or doing something that spreads disease. (Like putting their hands directly into ice cream topping trays instead of using the fucking scoop)

Frequently I see parents be way overly harsh with their kids where I'm at like the parent is terrified of being seen as a bad/lazy parent so they take it out on their kid by way over reacting to a kid doing something disruptive but ultimately pretty harmless.

There are occasional situations where the parent just dumbly stands there doing nothing to stop their kid doing something they really shouldn't (like that Ice Cream Topping example... which is a thing I recently witnessed). But that's less common than the former. Might be because I live in a rural conservative hellhole where kids are seen as their parent's property.

My kids are respectful but they’re kids and I have an autistic 4 year old who is so cute and cuddly but he has the energy of a thousand suns, one time he was skipping around, hopping over cracks in the sidewalk and being happy and laughing loud, we go to a store and hes asking me a million questions and laughing and talking loud while being energetic and hopping. this one old Karen tells me I need to keep him quieter and calm, because he is disturbing others by laughing and being a kid. Without skipping a beat i said “well good thing hes a kid, the world belongs to the kids, not miserable Old people who are gonna die any day now” She had that look that if she were wearing a monocle it would have popped out.

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[–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 day ago

When I was a kid, my parents used to leave me at home with my brother and he would be abusive af. He tied me up ones with zipties. One time, I felt so scared of my brother, I had to run away from home. I'm so used to all this, every time I hear my mother's voice, I feel terrified, its like PTSD-inducing.

Then my mother gets [suprisedpikachuface.jpg] when I have depression. What did you expect, bitch, you caused this.

[–] bizzle@lemmy.world 33 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I don't hit my kids, I barely even yell. They're the most well-behaved kids I know. Almost as though respecting your kids and spending time with them makes them happier? And maybe kids that feel respected act better? It's a parenting problem. Youth are the future, we the parents decide what that future looks like.

[–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 13 points 1 day ago

It's boundaries, expectations and consistancy in consequences if they break the rules.

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[–] undefined@lemmy.hogru.ch 111 points 1 day ago (9 children)

Can we please leave TikTok face on TikTok? I come here specifically to escape the brain rot.

[–] NaibofTabr@infosec.pub 67 points 1 day ago (1 children)

boy are you in the wrong place

[–] undefined@lemmy.hogru.ch 38 points 1 day ago (11 children)

I’m talking about a specific level of brain rot mind you, I can accept the lower level that is typical of Lemmy meme communities but not quite corporate social network levels.

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[–] dream_weasel@sh.itjust.works 25 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

ITT people taking issue with parenting methods not even being advocated for. If you take your children to public places, of course everyone knows they are children, but they still shouldn't be pulling stuff off racks, running around screaming and licking the windows, or putting hands on other people or children.

You don't have to yell at them or beat them or anything else, but if they can't pull themselves together in public then work on it and consider not bringing them to such places. My mom made us all repeat the rules before we left the car (no running, no putting things in the cart without being asked, keep one hand on the cart while we are moving or something like those) and if we didn't follow the rules we all went back to the car. Simple as that.

Edit: sometimes you gotta go do something and take the kids. If they're acting feral at least maybe don't be the parent who looks like they are totally cool with it and just pretend it isn't happening?

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[–] paranoid@lemmy.world 69 points 1 day ago (10 children)
[–] Akrenion@slrpnk.net 46 points 1 day ago (15 children)

Doesn't help that people judge 2 year old parents when their child is crying. Not like they could hold a debate with someone who can not comprehend the concept of self control.

[–] Rothe@piefed.social 90 points 1 day ago

2 year olds should really not be parents.

[–] Anivia@feddit.org 23 points 1 day ago (7 children)

No, but you can remove them from the venue if it doesn't stop crying, unless you're on a plane.

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[–] Olhonestjim@lemmy.world 27 points 1 day ago (2 children)
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[–] MissJinx@lemmy.world 32 points 1 day ago (47 children)

I understand but also not my problem? If you are too tired to deal with your children maybe keep them at home. If you are going to bring a child to a public place you got to be prepare and willing to educate them. Your children are special bundles of joy for You, and you only. People are not ok in having to deal with an unhinged savage child because parenting is hard. People take the "it takes a village" wrong. Not everyone you see is on your village.

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[–] EvilCartyen@feddit.dk 29 points 1 day ago (4 children)

I swear, Americans are obsessed with the idea that kids need a beating once in a while. That would get you arrested where I am from.

[–] nyctre@lemmy.world 25 points 1 day ago

I think people are jumping to the beating part but ignoring the rest. The thought process usually goes like "wow, my parents would've spanked me for doing that.. but they're not doing anything!"

It's not about the beating. It's about the kid being allowed to do whatever without any action from the parent. Because that's usually how it goes when a kid is being a nuisance.

[–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Not just Americans, corporal punishment is still acceptable in mainland China. I remember a teacher used a meter ruler and slapped a kid on the palm of their hands (it was a light slap, but still unacceptable in my opinion), I remember being so scared of it, not sure if I ever got slapped, but if I did, it probably became a suppressed memory since I can't recall it. Parents can beat their kids in public and cops probably wouldn't really do anything since its family matters. Fucking "Filial Piety" bs and all. I didn't get "beaten" but I did get hit when I was younger, and it only stopped because I got too old and I could fight back, and also because we immigrated to the US where it's less tolerated. Skill scolded me every chance she got. My brother also yells at me. Its chaos. Happens at least once a week.

I doubt my depression and anxiety issues will ever be solved.

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[–] ZoopZeZoop@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago

I need to move there. We have never spanked our kids and they behave no worse than any other kids, and better than many.

Louis C.K. may be a bit of a creep, but one thing he said really resonates with me. Children are the only people we're legally allowed to hit (in the U.S.). They are some of our most vulnerable people and we hit them. They rely on us to protect them, and we hit them. Fuck us for hitting our tiny, vulnerable babies. My wife wasn't totally opposed to spanking before we had kids, but then we had kids and she can't imagine hitting them. She's a wonderful human.

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[–] daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

All I want is enough differentiated "adult only" spaces. I won't say anyone how to raise their kids, just let me be in a space where that parenting is not happening.

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[–] Bluefalcon@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's crazy seeing kids being kids. In the 90's abuse was legal and used, daily. I guess the trade off is life expectancy since we didn't dodge bullets on the daily.

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

In 1990 violent crime was twice what it is now. It dropped heavily from 91' until 99'.

We just think it is more dangerous now because we can see it every time we reach in our pockets. (And companies make money off making sure we see it.)

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[–] rizzothesmall@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

It's pretty hard being a dad and wanting to not hit my kids (which I do not) because I know damn well when they're throwing shit and having an absolute exorcist level tantrum over some inconsequential shit I just think "yeah my mum would have smacked my ass and I'd not have done that again" for the eighth time each day..

"Calm it down or you'll lose your tablet time" doesn't have the same immediate corrective effect.

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