No Stupid Questions

You're only seeing the colds that made it through the defenses, without having any means of measuring the ones your immune system successfully blocked or kicked out before they could take hold.

So your statistics are flawed.

All of them aren't. Just the ones that did not attend to their general healththroughout their lives by abuses, or were born immunocompromised.

Those symptoms you've described? It's your immune system doing that to you. On purpose, not a mistake. Nose is stuffed because you're producing extra mucous to flush infection out of your airways. Dry throat because the tissues are inflamed to directly kill viruses using the body's transport system. Yeah, it's bad for you - but it's worse for the little invaders.

its worst if you allergies , or ashtma. humans are somewhat brachycephalic, so we are prone to breathing issues, or nasal disruptions. you know dogs with this type of conditions have a whole host of breathing and other issues.

getting flu and covid, rsv, or another viral infection is much worst than a cold.

are you sure this isnt covid, the current one causes severe sore throat, and painful swallowing. i just went through nimbus variant like 2 weeks ago and this what it caused. cold almost never causes this.

it sounds more like COVID.

If it makes you feel any better, your microscopic attacker is not having a very good time with your body's response either. You're the undefeated champion in this arena so far, keep up the winning streak.

bad at it? you literally rest for a week then recover, as opposed to dying. your pretty fucking good at it. you just don't know how bad it could be

Dude, you are in a million years battle with other organisms trying to exploit and kill you, and you're fucking winning. I would call that a blazing success. The other organisms are trying their literal best, their survival depends on it, and you just KEEP. ON. WINNING.

I'll admit I'm a sample size of one with no counterfactual, but I started using Vicks First Defence about 4 years ago and in that time the few colds I've had were much briefer and milder than they were previously.

It's a kind of mega-mucus spray that performs the same mechanical action as snot to physically get the virus out of your body, only a lot more aggressively. It's briefly unpleasant to use but usually worth it. (I am not paid by Vicks)

The immune system is fucking incredible, you should read up on it and then you'll never make a post like this again!

Take 2 advil during the day and try sleep with vicodin. Ya won't even notice

I'll say from personal experience, I found out that my body is actually awesome at responding to colds - I just don't let it.

Storytime - for pretty much all my life, I've had what I considered a pretty normal and functioning immune system. I would get a cold, feel how you felt for a few days or weeks, mostly just power through, and then I'd be back to normal.

However, in college I took 6 months off to hike the Appalachian Trail. This was great for a lot of reasons, but one thing I noticed (which everyone around me agreed on when I mentioned it to them), is that I'd pretty much stopped getting colds. For reference, trail life is not at all sanitary. Daily showers and grooming are the stuff of fantasy. Washing your hands after you take a shit is rare. If you frequent the small lean-to shelters along the trail to sleep (as I did almost every night), you will be sleeping shoulder to shoulder with other hikers with similar levels of hygiene. And it's not like we are somehow not catching and transmitting pathogens to each other. Every year, things like the flu or norovirus will rip through the hiking community, leaving 100 mile stretches of trail where you'll walk past dozens of hikers groaning in their tents (haphazardly set up just feet from the trail), with a pool of vomit just outside.

But the whole time I was on the trail, I never got a cold. As long as I wasn't sick sick, I felt very generally healthy. Why?

Well, the life I was living was very different than my normal life. I think I am decently healthy in my normal life. I eat a healthy diet and exercise regularly. But on the trail, I had a lot more things going for me.

• I slept a lot, in sync with my circadian rhythm. 8pm was widely agreed to be "hiker's midnight", since about 15 minutes after the sun went down, all the hikers would start feeling sleepy and decide to go to bed. I would usually knock out instantly, and then wake up at first light, groggily peer out my tent at the coming morning, take a piss, then roll back over and sleep for another hour or two.
• I was getting a lot of exercise. This exercise was rarely particularly strenuous, but every day I would wake up, shoulder my pack, and walk about 15 miles.
• I had a phone, but had no backup battery bank, mini solar charger, or anything like that. Cell reception in the hills typically oscillated between bad and nonexistant. So my phone almost universally lived in the bottom of a stuff sack inside my backpack. I would take it out maybe once every couple days to listen to a song or two before turning it off again to conserve prescious battery life in case of emergency. Partly this helped because it meant that I wasn't staring at a bright phone screen when I should be sleeping. But more than that, I think it helped because I wasn't constantly feeding my brain a stream of nee content. I spent almost my entire day, every day, hiking in the forest in silence with no distractions. All I had to entertain myself was noticing the environment around me, occassionally checking my map and digital watch to calculate how far to the next stream/shelter/trail junction/town, and whatever thoughts came up in my head.
• I spent pretty much all my time breathing fresh air. Most of the time I was in rural land with very little air pollution, and even when I did approach population centers, they tended to be, at most, medium-sized towns.
• When I wasn't hiking or camping alone, I was hiking and camping with other hikers. Trail life tends to dissolve the differences in class, age, national origin, political affiliation, religion, or anything else. Everyone shares a common interest - life on the trail - so conversation tends to flow easily. Trail talk tends to center around things hikers think about - food, water, miles, towns, shelters, gear, other hikers, weather, poop. Outside the rare individual who gives off bad vibes, everyone is welcome and welcoming, creating a general sense of community and support.
• I had a well defined goal, obvious steps to take to achieve it, and made progress every day. The goal: walk to the northern terminus. The plan: wake up, break camp, walk. Every day, I could lay down in bed and look at my map, celebrating the progress I'd made, seeing how much closer I was to some landmark like a town, a mountaintop vista, or a significant mile marker. With a clear goal like this and few other distractions, my sense of time dialated significantly - the present moment became paramount. The next few and previous few miles were all that mattered. Yesterday and tomorrow were significant markers in my mind. But the town I was in 3 days ago, I felt I hadn't seen in years. And when I started the trail? What I would do when I finished? That was another lifetime.

All these things, I think, contributed to my physical and mental health. And doing so, they either (a) improved my immune system enough that the common cold was stamped out long before my body had to create congestion to deal with it, or (b) my immune system wasn't overreacting to a relatively minor threat, and was simply taking care of these minor viral infections in the background without bothering me

Because evolution isn't intelligent and humans have been able to keep reproducing despite getting fucked up every now and then by our own body trying to fight off colds.

You've survived every one you've caught so far haven't you? That's a testament to it's awesomeness!

All that IS the response, and without it, a virus would kill you.

You are better off toughing it out than taking drugs that block the responses.

A lot of people in this thread saying that viruses are losing when we live through a cold. That's just not true. Their goal is to live/reproduce, not to kill. They're winning at a different game, it just hurts us as a byproduct.

When I have a cold I wear a cloth mask to bed and that actually helps reduce the sore throat I get from breathing dry air. Also, it does a pretty good job of preventing my partner from getting sick as well!

It's incredibly good at responding to infections. That's why you're alive.

Taking medicine to reduce symptoms when you're sick, actually increases the amount of time that you're sick. You reducing the effectiveness of your body's fight.

If you find yourself often getting sick, take a look at your overall health, especially your metabolic health. Make sure you're getting enough sleep, zinc, sunlight, and avoiding sugar as much as you can.

The common cold is a family of coronaviruses, our bodies have been fighting off their mutations for millennia. An mRNA vaccines for colds, if I remember correctly, was in the works, but, well, we've all seen what's happening there

You know symptoms is the tangible evidence of your body fighting the fucker? I'm no scientist but I remember hearing that apparently a raised body temp is one method of killing the cunt that's trying to attack you.

Sure it is unpleasant. But you basically just have to rest for a day or two and your body will cure itself ... I'd say that's a pretty good response.

And thanks to our brains we also have medicine to combat most of these symptoms, making it really just a minor inconvenience.

With these symptoms you can’t run, you can’t hunt, you can’t burn too many calories. Your body does everything in its power to prevent you from using resources your body needs to defeat the sickness.

That’s the reason why placebo meds work: the fact that the doctor gave you medicine means that you are really sick, and therefore you have to rest. In reality you’re behaving differently and therefore you’ll get healthy faster.

Oh: and you’re slightly dehydrated so you don’t have that much risk of infecting others.

We are tribal animals. Apes together strong. We care for the sick ones because that means they can focus on recovery.

Simple:

1. Drink water
2. I Clear the snot in the wash basin every 30 minutes
3. I Don't drink the snot that comes in backwards from ~~your~~ my nose, no matter how lazy ~~you are~~ I am feeling
   • spit it out in the wash basin
   • this way ~~you~~ I don't get cough
4. I don't take paracetamol or symptomatic relief medicine, instead keep 2-3 handkerchiefs to keep it clean
5. Sinuses blocked and blowing nose is not enough, there is a medicine for it. But if you can, try some mace and nutmeg powder instead.
6. Fever? Yes. I Sleep with it.
   • Feeling weak, I take some ORS (the one with sugar in it)

And the most important part, don't go around coughing/snorting it at other people.

Sinuses blocked

There's 2 types of medicines for this.
1 will dry up your nose, essentially stopping the exit of pathogens via that vector. The other will convert blocked-nose to running nose.
The 2nd one is desirable, if you want it to actually get fixed. Of course, you will need to clean your nose more often, as a result.