They keep poking borders without recourse. Perhaps there isn't enough poking back. I say that to protect our borders from Russia, we give support to Ukraine. We know what happened there already.
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Russia has violated Estonian airspace four times already this year, which is unacceptable in itself, but today’s violation, during which three fighter jets entered our airspace, is unprecedentedly brutal
So has Russia already been doing this for a while and the EU is only now making a big deal out of it? Or is this an actual escalation?
Unprecedentedly brutal? They flew in and flew back out get a fucking grip lol
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Similar actions has been made by both sides:
- In October 2023, four NATO reconnaissance aircraft (an RQ-4 Global Hawk, a Bombardier Challenger 650 Artemis, and two P-8A Poseidons) conducted flights approximately 150 km from the Crimean coast.
- In August 2023, MQ-9 "Reaper" and TB2 "Bayraktar" drones conducted reconnaissance over the Black Sea but were intercepted and diverted by Russian Aerospace Forces fighters.
back in the 80's i learned that this was an almost routine thing that was done to test their opponents response capabilities; is this still the case?
Yes, the practice of testing an adversary's response capabilities through deliberate or accidental airspace violations persists, although its context, methods, and participants have evolved significantly since the Cold War.
This is exemplified by two flights of U.S. Air Force B-52H Stratofortress strategic bombers, capable of carrying nuclear weapons, over the Black Sea near the Crimean coast on September 4th and 14th, 2020.
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On September 4th, the aircraft took off from RAF Fairford in the UK. They flew over the Netherlands, Germany, and Poland before entering Ukrainian airspace and approaching Crimea from the north. The bombers came within approximately 40-53 km of the Crimean coast near Melitopol and Genichesk. They were escorted by Ukrainian Su-27 and MiG-29 fighters. Russian fighter jets did not intercept them, as the B-52Hs did not violate Russian airspace.
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On September 14th, three B-52H bombers again departed from RAF Fairford. They crossed over Ukraine to the Black Sea, heading toward Turkey, and flew within about 37.5 km of the Crimean coast near the village of Mayak. Concurrently, two Royal Air Force Sentinel R.1 reconnaissance aircraft were operating near Russian borders over the Black Sea. In response, Russian air defense forces scrambled two Su-27 fighters on duty and a pair of Su-30 fighters from the Southern Military District. The Russian crews identified the aerial targets as U.S. Air Force B-52H strategic bombers and escorted them over the Black Sea.
The Ukrainian government in Kyiv confirmed these flights. On Monday, September 14th, the Ukrainian Air Force Command announced that three U.S. B-52H strategic bombers had re-entered the country's airspace, escorted by Ukrainian fighter jets. In a statement on Facebook, the command noted: "The B-52s, under the cover of Ukrainian fighter jets, headed for the Black Sea for joint actions with our partners in the field of collective security. Such patrols will be regular, as the B-52 missions in the skies of Ukraine are part of the long-planned deployment of six B-52s at the UK's RAF Fairford."
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How is flying over Ukrainian airspace the same thing as Russia flying over the airspace of NATO nations?
Neither of those incidents involve fighter jets and neither are over Russian airspace.
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Yay, more war. The total coolest thing. Yeah. Hurray.
War is the only solution that Capitalist systems accept to solve overproduction crises.
War is Never the solution
I get that, but it's like capitalist systems don't have another tool in the toolbox. Wouldn't it be so much more effective if they just paid people a decent wage to begin with?
I was just remarking how I hate war. Dont really think thats an invalid opinion. I get that war is eternal because its good for capitalism.
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Get them chihuahuas
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