Don't forget the bison skull mountain in the US. They exterminated the bison population for no other reason than to starve the Indigenous peoples into submission.
"If your hunter gatherer lifestyle is so great why are you starving after we deliberately starved you?"
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Committing one genocide to further another...
India was under authoritarian occupation by the bloodthirsty British during its last famine.
Same as Ireland right?, is it really a gotcha moment to say capitalism doesn't work because sometimes it is installed under an authoritarian system, even though more so socialism is installed under a authoritarian system vast majority of the time
All states are "authoritarian," the difference is which class is the ruling class. In capitalism, that's the capitalist class, but in socialism, it's the working class. The state is simply the instrument by which the ruling class in any given society resolves class conflicts in favor of the ruling class. That's why in socialist countries, metrics for the working class have skyrocketed, but they largely stagnate or decay in capitalism.
No modern or past socialist country has had the working class as there ruling class, there has always been an elite class, this is simply not true Cuba and North Korea are instant examples that come to mind, and there are countless more
All states are authoritarian too a degree, there is nuance here and not everything is black and white
Every socialist state has had the working class as the ruling class, that"s part of the definition of socialism. The state is not a class itself.
Secondly, the degree to which a state exerts its authority depends on the circumstances it's in. Nazi Germany and modern Germany both have the same capacity for weilding authority, but the Nazis came to power during economic crisis, and killed the workers that were organizing in order to prevent socialism from spreading. Modern Germany isn't any less authoritarian, it just doesn't need to exert the same degree of authority. It will eventually, most likely.
About famine, how far off is the US from it? If their farmers are failing as bad as they say they are, coupled with droughts in various other farming areas around the world, and if Russia is still bombing agriculture in the Ukraine, are we in store for shortages any time soon?
Forced famines are fucked up regardless of state ideology. Shame on the UK and on the USSR.
The 1930s famine wasn't forced, though. It was a combination of adverse weather conditions leading to lower crop yields, wealthy farmers called kulaks killing their livestock and burning their crops to "resist collectivization," and some degree of mismanagement. It's important to recognize that pre-1930s, Eastern Europe had regular famines as well, and that following collectivization the 1930s famine was the last famine outside of World War II (when the Nazis took Ukraine, the USSR's breadbasket).
Churchill intentionally caused and extended the Bengal Famine, he hated Indians:
I hate Indians. They are a beastly people with a beastly religion. The famine was their own fault for breeding like rabbits.
The br*tish and the kulaks
