That little fella is the product of 2 billion years of evolution, do you have any idea how many terrawatthours that took? How much water? How much this activity reshaped the planet? All so you could ask that fella some silly questions
Worth it!
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If we're using the total amount of energy over it's development, AI still loses hard because its creation also factors in billions of years of evolution for the humans who created it. When you then take into account how much less energy efficient AI is per response while only being capable of that single task, it's an even more bananas comparison.
Not that much, nature is efficient.
Humans use roughly 100W just to stay alive, so 876kWh a year, 26280kWh per life (assuming average historical lifespan of 30 years), since homo sapiens "emerged" there have been roughly 117 billion individuals so 3074760 terrawatthours, and this is ignoring any additional energy usage from doing any activity
And that's just from a single species that has only existed 190000-ish years
Gonna need a sauce on that bro cause it sounds like you pulled it out of ChatGpt's Ass
I googled each number as i needed them and can't be arsed to look them up again, they should be in the right ballpark just look it up
I love that we live in a time where everyone is accusing eachother of posting AI slop regardless of whether it is or not by the way
because everyone is still in an obsessive honeymooning period where they can tell the difference between generative outputs and manmade works at all times and they’re special enough to always be able to just know all the time, unlike those people who are just too dumb to know the differences.
i think once people accept the reality that they’re going to be fooled and there’s nothing they can do about it they’ll reassess their values and figure out more productive things to outrage farm about, but that might just be wishful thinking. we’ve lived in a post-truth world for quite awhile, it’s just painfully obvious now. (rhetorical) you will either learn to productively live in this world as it is or you’ll be jaded and hateful your whole life bc you decided to cling to values that fundamentally cannot exist in the current status quo anymore.
the point is, you do have a choice here. barring the total collapse of society as we know it - ML/AI research and generative techs are never going away, no matter how much tumblr wiccans pray to the moon for it to happen. a lot of people lack the wider context of the like, century-ish of history behind the machine learning industry. this is a very old space. these events were a very long time coming. everyone being a reactionary about it doesn’t actually care, bc if they did they’d have cared before it was the cool thing to be doing.
we can build a better society but we cannot do it without the means of production, which by now includes massive data centers, render farms, and other IT infrastructure powering the current ML/AI boom and all of big tech as we know it. acting like these things don’t exist just bc of a justified deep-seeded hate of big tech neofascists is the most ignorant fucking take i’ve seen grip the commons in my life and im still of the opinion there must be a degree of astroturfing involved because people on average just cannot be this dumb.
Hey so the thing is like 99% of what people use the internet for can be self hosted (including AI), meaning we already have the means to it. Gen AI is also pretty fucking useless outside of a chat bot
Also if you need facts on something you can, yknow, do what ypur supposed to do and check sources, authors, institutions, backgrounds of the funding, etc? These are things were supposed to be doing anyway for critical information and AI doesn't change that into "welp guess everythings fake news." People were lying on the internet long before AI
peeps who genuinely use unedited lm output as som kindsa source-.,.... r on the same level as crypto-bros for me....
but my 14-year old brother is like dis >~< aaaaaaa his brain is rotting away as i speak!!! he yaps to dis voice mode a looooot - evn right after comin home!
dis is BAD! like - he has frens, he doesn need som machine to verify his thoughts.... whyyyys he like dis rn >o<
imma hav to make a presentation bout.,. dis....
Why do you type like this?
poisoning the datapool for the scrapers, presumably.
welcome to the tower of babel when the people create new dialects and languages after the overlord destroys what they created because the overlord demands complete control of the populace, but the populace refuse to be controlled. the challenge from here is that now it's harder for ourselves to organize ourselves because we talk about these things differently
I probably shouldn't answer for her but gender euphoria
eh - naw - jus cuz i feel like it.,.iguess one cud argue its for whatevr poisoning, but thad doesn work anymor - todays LM training labs jus filter all the training data thru another LM which decides if the given data looks jumbled or not--- so id have to get mor sophisticated-
I'm not sure that "feeling like it" and "gender euphoria" are all that distinct here but u do u
RED EFT! IT'S A RED EFT! WHOEVER TOOK THIS PICTURE, WE'RE NEIGHBORS
Seriously on the fence with this dude